National Boy Scout Jamboree 2013

[ARandomCadet]

Is anyone else out there in CAPTalk going to the 2013 Boy Scout Jamboree at the Summit Bechtel Reserve? It would be nice to meet up with some other CAP members who are going to be at Jamboree. It doesn't matter if you are on staff, a leader, a scout, or a venturer, just scan my QR code in the Jambo app and maybe we could meet up at an event there. Also you can find me over in cell block D or in the Summit Center hanging around the military exhibits. So here is my QR code: http://postimg.org/image/s1s6r9jkn/ . Also did any of y'all know that the National Guard will be providing security and medical support? Apparently since over 70,000 people will be there, the NG is needed to help since the event is labeled as a area that would be possible for terrorists to attack (and they are taking it so seriously that they send you home at your expense if you bring a laser pointer).

[ARandomCadet]

Also, you can find me at The Barrels (shooting sports) on Friday, July 19 at 1:00 PM. If you click on the link it will take you to my QR code.

[ARandomCadet]

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[SAREXinNY]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

[ARandomCadet]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

It doesn't surprise me either. There is a whole list of contraband that if you are caught with it then you get sent home at your expense. I mean they have that along with a trauma center, 6 helipads, 5 field hospitals, EMT stations everywhere you could imagine, a dentist, a ophthalmologist, a psychiatrist (just to name a few). It even has its own waste water treatment plant. The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon. This is all for 70,000 people that will be staying there, and overall for 10 days a total of 100,000 people combined (visitors and scouts, staff, and leaders).

[SarDragon]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

It doesn't surprise me either. There is a whole list of contraband that if you are caught with it then you get sent home at your expense. I mean they have that along with a trauma center, 6 helipads, 5 field hospitals, EMT stations everywhere you could imagine, a dentist, a ophthalmologist, a psychiatrist (just to name a few). It even has its own waste water treatment plant. The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon. This is all for 70,000 people that will be staying there, and overall for 10 days a total of 100,000 people combined (visitors and scouts, staff, and leaders).

I think most of us figured that out about 5 seconds after the first mention.

[PHall]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

It doesn't surprise me either. There is a whole list of contraband that if you are caught with it then you get sent home at your expense. I mean they have that along with a trauma center, 6 helipads, 5 field hospitals, EMT stations everywhere you could imagine, a dentist, a ophthalmologist, a psychiatrist (just to name a few). It even has its own waste water treatment plant. The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon. This is all for 70,000 people that will be staying there, and overall for 10 days a total of 100,000 people combined (visitors and scouts, staff, and leaders).

I think most of us figured that out about 5 seconds after the first mention.

And anyone who has had one aimed at their eyes would probably try to kill or seriously injure the idiot who pointed it at them too...

[Майор Хаткевич]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

It doesn't surprise me either. There is a whole list of contraband that if you are caught with it then you get sent home at your expense. I mean they have that along with a trauma center, 6 helipads, 5 field hospitals, EMT stations everywhere you could imagine, a dentist, a ophthalmologist, a psychiatrist (just to name a few). It even has its own waste water treatment plant. The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon. This is all for 70,000 people that will be staying there, and overall for 10 days a total of 100,000 people combined (visitors and scouts, staff, and leaders).

I think most of us figured that out about 5 seconds after the first mention.

And anyone who has had one aimed at their eyes would probably try to kill or seriously injure the idiot who pointed it at them too...

On our 8th grade DC trip, someone shined it outside their hotel window at people. This was when the DC sniper was out and about shooting people...

[ARandomCadet]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

It doesn't surprise me either. There is a whole list of contraband that if you are caught with it then you get sent home at your expense. I mean they have that along with a trauma center, 6 helipads, 5 field hospitals, EMT stations everywhere you could imagine, a dentist, a ophthalmologist, a psychiatrist (just to name a few). It even has its own waste water treatment plant. The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon. This is all for 70,000 people that will be staying there, and overall for 10 days a total of 100,000 people combined (visitors and scouts, staff, and leaders).

I think most of us figured that out about 5 seconds after the first mention.

And anyone who has had one aimed at their eyes would probably try to kill or seriously injure the idiot who pointed it at them too...

Put the fact everybody in my family wears glasses aside, and that is a reason why I wear glasses. I loved shining lasers in my eyes. Now I don't like it.

[ARandomCadet]

Doesn't surprise me.  I was at the 1997 Jamboree at Fort AP Hill.  Bill Clinton landed on Marine One and immediately was hit with a half dozen laser pointers from the less-than-intelligent scouts in the crowd.  I can imagine laser pointers are now a big no-no.

It doesn't surprise me either. There is a whole list of contraband that if you are caught with it then you get sent home at your expense. I mean they have that along with a trauma center, 6 helipads, 5 field hospitals, EMT stations everywhere you could imagine, a dentist, a ophthalmologist, a psychiatrist (just to name a few). It even has its own waste water treatment plant. The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon. This is all for 70,000 people that will be staying there, and overall for 10 days a total of 100,000 people combined (visitors and scouts, staff, and leaders).

I think most of us figured that out about 5 seconds after the first mention.

And anyone who has had one aimed at their eyes would probably try to kill or seriously injure the idiot who pointed it at them too...

On our 8th grade DC trip, someone shined it outside their hotel window at people. This was when the DC sniper was out and about shooting people...

I'll be sure to keep my eye out when I go to DC on my 8th grade trip.     

[Nuke52]

I loved shining lasers in my eyes.

Am I the only one not surprised by this?

[RogueLeader]

I loved shining lasers in my eyes.

Am I the only one not surprised by this?

No.

[Майор Хаткевич]

I loved shining lasers in my eyes.

Am I the only one not surprised by this?

No.

Hey I did it too when I was 9! ...Maybe that's why I needed glasses at 19. Or maybe it was genetics.

[abdsp51]

The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon.

It's not classified its likely designated FOUO, and I doubt that there is a DoD TF there providing security.  You probably have a TF made up of LE, ANG, and maybe FEMA.  I think you need to double check your information before posting.

[Nuke52]

The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon.

It's not classified its likely designated FOUO, and I doubt that there is a DoD TF there providing security.  You probably have a TF made up of LE, ANG, and maybe FEMA. I think you need to double check your information before posting.

Non-concur:  it makes for much more interesting reading this way.

[Eclipse]

I have a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout and this is not an activity I would be inclined to let them participate in, especially if I wasn't going with them.

It has a pretty poor history of safety issues, including deaths in fairly recent times, and, based purely on news reports and anecdotes from past attendees,
the leadership seems to have issues with understanding ORM.

I'm sure it's a rocking good time for the vast majority, but the scale of the activity itself just lends itself to so much easily-attained badness that
it seems like "not a good idea".

As to the security plans, it would be criminally negligent on the part of the BSA and the local governmental bodies to allow that many people in
a single area without some serious contingency plans for weather, disasters, sanitation and hygiene, and of course the ever present bozo attacks
(by both foreign and domestic actors), but having your name on a page, or your number on a "call when SHTF" list doesn't necessarily make
the activity an NLE, but ith that said, in years past, POTUS and others of the national leadership have delivered the keynote speeches (a fact
which calls back to my ORM comment above), and of course if someone of that stature is there, all bets are off in regards to security.

[ARandomCadet]

The security arrangements are classified, but there is a DoD and WVARNG task force there. The main reason they said no to laser pointers was because it could be thought to be a laser from a weapon.

It's not classified its likely designated FOUO, and I doubt that there is a DoD TF there providing security.  You probably have a TF made up of LE, ANG, and maybe FEMA.  I think you need to double check your information before posting.

BSA said they do not speak openly (the first indication it is classified, as I can go and find all the FOUO stuff I want) about the security arrangements. Also they said a joint task force to coordinate DoD and WVARNG assets (I am lead to believe that employees for both are on the task force that coordinates everything), also I am lead to believe that because of the high risk situation that the DoD and WVARNG would be doing counter-terrorism security and medical support (the photo at the top if the post [which is written by the chief security person] shows a U.S. Army UH-60 with fuel pods and medical markings on it).

[ARandomCadet]

I have a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout and this is not an activity I would be inclined to let them participate in, especially if I wasn't going with them.

It has a pretty poor history of safety issues, including deaths in fairly recent times, and, based purely on news reports and anecdotes from past attendees,
the leadership seems to have issues with understanding ORM.

I'm sure it's a rocking good time for the vast majority, but the scale of the activity itself just lends itself to so much easily-attained badness that
it seems like "not a good idea".

It's completely safe there, as they are making safety the number one priority. You are required to carry credentials around that have a barcode that will show all your medical info when scanned with a scanning device, also they are not only mobilizing federal assets, but other assets including the West Virginia DHS. To enter the area all participants must pass an on site medical test along with the exams administered before being accepted to go there.

[Eclipse]

BSA said they do not speak openly (the first indication it is classified, as I can go and find all the FOUO stuff I want)

No, that means they "do not speak openly".  If you, as a rank and file Scout, can "find all the FOUO stuff you want", that means that any member of the general public, scout parents,
and anyone else interested can as well.

[Eclipse]

It's completely safe there, as they are making safety the number one priority. You are required to carry credentials around that have a barcode that will show all your medical info when scanned with a scanning device, also they are not only mobilizing federal assets, but other assets including the West Virginia DHS. To enter the area all participants must pass an on site medical test along with the exams administered before being accepted to go there.

I'm not referring to event access - perhaps you should spend less time looking for ways to carry your various uniforms, and more
on learning about the history of your organization and the fairly recent history of this activity.

An ID card in your pocket will not protect you against electrical wires or heat stroke.