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Title: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 16, 2016, 07:19:07 PM
However the dice fall, I'm happy to have completed the requirements, and even more relieved now that the packet was done, and sent off.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Eclipse on June 16, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
As someone who has known you since your cadet days, and in the words of one of our esteemed colleagues:

"Of all the people I have known who are members of CAP, you sir, without question, are one of them..."
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: THRAWN on June 16, 2016, 07:42:40 PM
You have a far reaching reputation as someone who truly knows what they're talking about. CAP is better for having you as a member. Good luck.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 16, 2016, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 16, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
As someone who has known you since your cadet days, and in the words of one of our esteemed colleagues:

"Of all the people I have known who are members of CAP, you sir, without question, are one of them..."


I love that quote.  >:D


Quote from: THRAWN on June 16, 2016, 07:42:40 PM[/size]You have a far reaching reputation as someone who truly knows what they're talking about. CAP is better for having you as a member. Good luck.



That comment started off with some scary words. Typically "far reaching reputation" is not a good place to be!
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Garibaldi on June 16, 2016, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 16, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
As someone who has known you since your cadet days, and in the words of one of our esteemed colleagues:

"Of all the people I have known who are members of CAP, you sir, without question, are one of them..."

Over the last few years, I've come to regard you as...people...I've met.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 16, 2016, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on June 16, 2016, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 16, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
As someone who has known you since your cadet days, and in the words of one of our esteemed colleagues:

"Of all the people I have known who are members of CAP, you sir, without question, are one of them..."

Over the last few years, I've come to regard you as...people...I've met.


Oh, were you at the INWG/GLR conference too?  >:D
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: MSG Mac on June 17, 2016, 03:48:31 AM
The hat at Clothing Sales runs about $65. Must be nice to be rich.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 17, 2016, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on June 17, 2016, 03:48:31 AM
The hat at Clothing Sales runs about $65. Must be nice to be rich.

The Grey and White hat costs $0.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: NIN on June 17, 2016, 11:52:05 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on June 17, 2016, 03:48:31 AM
The hat at Clothing Sales runs about $65. Must be nice to be rich.

The flight cap is the same.  :)

(Been a Lt Col since about 2004, haven't needed a wheel hat.. gonna stay that way until a field-grade hat crosses my path at a good price)
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Spam on June 18, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Sir, may I extend my (early?) sincere congratulations.

Will you update your screen name to майор Хаткевич?



Cheers!
Spam


Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 04:27:08 AM
Quote from: Spam on June 18, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Sir, may I extend my (early?) sincere congratulations.

Will you update your screen name to майор Хаткевич?



Cheers!
Spam

If it happens.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Spam on June 18, 2016, 05:39:50 AM
Why would it not?

I get it, though. I made LTC at age 29 and the MDWG Chief of Staff (retired field grade officer) opposed the personnel action, saying that I was just too young to reasonably be a Lt Colonel (the cadet service factored in). At Commanders Call (I was on my second command tour at the time) he walked down the aisle and dropped the completed CAPF2 on my lap without an announcement or comment. A rather miserly, petty thing to do, I thought, but I just folded it and put it away.

Captain(P) H, if you've earned it, you wear it with pride, and thanks for your service.

Very Respectfully,
Spam

Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:05:34 AM
Quote from: Spam on June 18, 2016, 05:39:50 AM
Why would it not?

I get it, though. I made LTC at age 29 and the MDWG Chief of Staff (retired field grade officer) opposed the personnel action, saying that I was just too young to reasonably be a Lt Colonel (the cadet service factored in). At Commanders Call (I was on my second command tour at the time) he walked down the aisle and dropped the completed CAPF2 on my lap without an announcement or comment. A rather miserly, petty thing to do, I thought, but I just folded it and put it away.

Captain(P) H, if you've earned it, you wear it with pride, and thanks for your service.

Very Respectfully,
Spam

For better or worse, ILWG has a set expectation of higher responsibility for Field Grade promotions. I believe that I've shown willingness and taken on roles above the unit level, but that's for the Unit, group, and wing Promotion Boards to decide.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on June 18, 2016, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:05:34 AM
For better or worse, ILWG has a set expectation of higher responsibility for Field Grade promotions. I believe that I've shown willingness and taken on roles above the unit level, but that's for the Unit, group, and wing Promotion Boards to decide.

Considering the opening paragraph of the relevant regulation:
Quote from: CAPR 35-5 para 1-1.
General. Criteria for promotion of CAP active members (as defined in CAPR 39-2, paragraph 3-1a), will be applied uniformly throughout Civil Air Patrol. CAP unit supplements to this regulation in the form of publications or oral instructions that change the basic policies, criteria, procedures and practices prescribed herein are prohibited.
I'd say for the worse. I think the section of the reg above covers any way possible to add requirements to a promotion.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: EMT-83 on June 18, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
You would think so, but take a look over your western border.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on September 23, 2016, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 18, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Sir, may I extend my (early?) sincere congratulations.

Will you update your screen name to майор Хаткевич?



Cheers!
Spam


Ask, and you shall receive.
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Storm Chaser on September 23, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
Quote from: Phil Hirons, Jr. on June 18, 2016, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:05:34 AM
For better or worse, ILWG has a set expectation of higher responsibility for Field Grade promotions. I believe that I've shown willingness and taken on roles above the unit level, but that's for the Unit, group, and wing Promotion Boards to decide.

Considering the opening paragraph of the relevant regulation:
Quote from: CAPR 35-5 para 1-1.
General. Criteria for promotion of CAP active members (as defined in CAPR 39-2, paragraph 3-1a), will be applied uniformly throughout Civil Air Patrol. CAP unit supplements to this regulation in the form of publications or oral instructions that change the basic policies, criteria, procedures and practices prescribed herein are prohibited.
I'd say for the worse. I think the section of the reg above covers any way possible to add requirements to a promotion.

And let's not forget the paragraph that states:

Quote from: CAPR 35-5, Para. 2-1a(4)
Be performing in an exemplary manner meriting promotion to the grade recommended.

Many members forget that paragraph.  ;)

Quote from: Майор Хаткевич on September 23, 2016, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 18, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Sir, may I extend my (early?) sincere congratulations.

Will you update your screen name to майор Хаткевич?



Cheers!
Spam


Ask, and you shall receive.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Eclipse on September 23, 2016, 07:16:23 PM
Well, congrats!

...seems like they will give those gold bottle caps to anyone these days...
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on September 23, 2016, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 23, 2016, 07:16:23 PM
Well, congrats!

...seems like they will give those gold bottle caps to anyone these days...


да
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: ColonelJack on September 24, 2016, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: Майор Хаткевич on September 23, 2016, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 18, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Sir, may I extend my (early?) sincere congratulations.

Will you update your screen name to майор Хаткевич?



Cheers!
Spam


Ask, and you shall receive.

Congratulations!  Welcome to the "field grade club."

Such as it is, anyway.

Jack
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: MacGruff on September 24, 2016, 09:13:31 PM
Congratulations!!
Title: Re: Submitted my Promotion Packet for Major - what a relief
Post by: Shuman 14 on September 27, 2016, 04:46:49 PM
Congrats.  :)