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Operations => Aerospace Education => Topic started by: Eclipse on October 25, 2014, 06:41:30 PM

Title: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: Eclipse on October 25, 2014, 06:41:30 PM
Google New Record - ALAN EUSTACE Highest Skydive Jump (VIDEO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsftfzBrVko#ws)

Alan Eustace Sets A New Record For Highest-Altitude Jump (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T711k05nJmw#ws)

http://www.space.com/27537-supersonic-near-space-dive-photos.html (http://www.space.com/27537-supersonic-near-space-dive-photos.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2806972/Google-Executive-breaks-Felix-Baumgartner-s-highest-parachute-jump-record-secret-135-000-foot-leap-edge-space.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2806972/Google-Executive-breaks-Felix-Baumgartner-s-highest-parachute-jump-record-secret-135-000-foot-leap-edge-space.html)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/24/1414179271767_wps_16_Parachutist_s_Record_Brea.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/24/1414177848482_wps_11_Parachutist_s_Record_Brea.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: NIN on October 25, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
Felix Baumgartner: 3+ years, lots of Red Bull money, at least one lawsuit, a couple false starts, a crapload of media hype, and one gigantic ad for GoPro.
Alan Eustace: 2 years, likely a bunch of his own money, almost no media attention (I know a guy who works for Performance Designs in their marketing department, if they were at liberty to say something, it would have been said before yesterday), and a lash-up worthy of Mr. Wily E. Coyote (Super Genius).

I like the latter approach.
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: PHall on October 25, 2014, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: NIN on October 25, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
Felix Baumgartner: 3+ years, lots of Red Bull money, at least one lawsuit, a couple false starts, a crapload of media hype, and one gigantic ad for GoPro.
Alan Eustace: 2 years, likely a bunch of his own money, almost no media attention (I know a guy who works for Performance Designs in their marketing department, if they were at liberty to say something, it would have been said before yesterday), and a lash-up worthy of Mr. Wily E. Coyote (Super Genius).

I like the latter approach.


The only thing missing is ACME!!! ;)
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: a2capt on October 25, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
1960 ... 2012 ... 2014.

Who's gonna be next?

If it wasn't for the speed of orbit, one could bail out from orbit for the cheapest ever return to Earth...
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: PHall on October 26, 2014, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: a2capt on October 25, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
1960 ... 2012 ... 2014.

Who's gonna be next?

If it wasn't for the speed of orbit, one could bail out from orbit for the cheapest ever return to Earth...


If Captain Kirk could do it in Star Trek....
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: ColonelJack on October 26, 2014, 11:17:13 AM
Quote from: PHall on October 26, 2014, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: a2capt on October 25, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
1960 ... 2012 ... 2014.

Who's gonna be next?

If it wasn't for the speed of orbit, one could bail out from orbit for the cheapest ever return to Earth...


If Captain Kirk could do it in Star Trek....

Well, yes ... Sulu did it too ... both over Vulcan!

Unless you're referring to the deleted scene from "Star Trek: Generations" where Kirk sky-dived (sky-dove?) from orbit and Scotty told him off about doing too much?  Since that was clipped, it isn't normally considered "canon" of Trek.

Jack
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: NIN on October 26, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
I weep for our aerospace program. Haven't you guys ever heard of orbital velocity?

Basically, only a balloon or a sub orbital space craft is going to be able to take somebody up for that kind of parachute jump without dealing with massive amounts of atmospheric heating. Trying to scrub off 11500 miles an hour of orbital velocity with your body is going to be somewhat exfoliating
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: arajca on October 26, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: PHall on October 26, 2014, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: a2capt on October 25, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
1960 ... 2012 ... 2014.

Who's gonna be next?

If it wasn't for the speed of orbit, one could bail out from orbit for the cheapest ever return to Earth...


If Captain Kirk could do it in Star Trek....
You mean LT Kirk, right?
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: ColonelJack on October 26, 2014, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: arajca on October 26, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: PHall on October 26, 2014, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: a2capt on October 25, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
1960 ... 2012 ... 2014.

Who's gonna be next?

If it wasn't for the speed of orbit, one could bail out from orbit for the cheapest ever return to Earth...


If Captain Kirk could do it in Star Trek....
You mean LT Kirk, right?

Well, technically, it was Midshipman Kirk ... third year at the Academy and all.  One great mission and he jumps to O-6 and command of the Federation flagship.

Talk about a meteoric rise!

Jack
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: Eclipse on October 27, 2014, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: NIN on October 26, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
I weep for our aerospace program. Haven't you guys ever heard of orbital velocity?

Orbital what now? 

Our Aerospace Program consists of copying something called a "Plan of Action" from some other unit and then documenting
that it was submitted. 

What's that got to do what Velocitawhatchamacallits?
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: NIN on October 29, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on October 27, 2014, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: NIN on October 26, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
I weep for our aerospace program. Haven't you guys ever heard of orbital velocity?

Orbital what now? 

Our Aerospace Program consists of copying something called a "Plan of Action" from some other unit and then documenting
that it was submitted. 

What's that got to do what Velocitawhatchamacallits?

*sigh*

Mr. Coyote called, wants me to rig up his ACME balloon for a space jump for his buddy Yogi:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I5i4foJGoB4/UzG6bC8-mqI/AAAAAAAAt5I/dbWEGlMB8tc/s1600/BAFFLED+BEAR+4.png)

Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: LSThiker on October 29, 2014, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: ColonelJack on October 26, 2014, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: arajca on October 26, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: PHall on October 26, 2014, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: a2capt on October 25, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
1960 ... 2012 ... 2014.

Who's gonna be next?

If it wasn't for the speed of orbit, one could bail out from orbit for the cheapest ever return to Earth...


If Captain Kirk could do it in Star Trek....
You mean LT Kirk, right?

Well, technically, it was Midshipman Kirk ... third year at the Academy and all.  One great mission and he jumps to O-6 and command of the Federation flagship.

Talk about a meteoric rise!

Jack

Oy.  Never reference the abomination called Star Trek.  It was Capt Kirk and he did it in Star Trek Generations (deleted scene).
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on October 30, 2014, 12:25:58 AM
If it is a deleted scene it does not count.
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: PHall on October 30, 2014, 12:59:08 AM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on October 30, 2014, 12:25:58 AM
If it is a deleted scene it does not count.

It's on the DVD. It's an offical Paramount Pictures DVD. So does it count?
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on October 30, 2014, 01:05:48 AM
No, it was deleted from the film.
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: lordmonar on October 30, 2014, 01:52:08 AM
Okay.....who here has graduated from star fleet academy? (yes I got a certificate and everything)




Okay.....the rules on cannon.........if it was in the films, on tv, in one of the DVD, VHS, laser discs....it is cannon.

So Captain Kirk did skydive from orbit.....and Rene Auberjonois was a starfleet admiral.
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: SarDragon on October 30, 2014, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 30, 2014, 01:52:08 AM
Okay.....who here has graduated from star fleet academy? (yes I got a certificate and everything)




Okay.....the rules on cannon.........if it was in the films, on tv, in one of the DVD, VHS, laser discs....it is cannon.

So Captain Kirk did skydive from orbit.....and Rene Auberjonois was a starfleet admiral.

Don't forget the Painless Pole, too.
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: ColonelJack on October 30, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 30, 2014, 01:52:08 AM
Okay.....who here has graduated from star fleet academy? (yes I got a certificate and everything)




Okay.....the rules on cannon.........if it was in the films, on tv, in one of the DVD, VHS, laser discs....it is cannon.

So Captain Kirk did skydive from orbit.....and Rene Auberjonois was a starfleet admiral.

...who, for some reason, was referred to as "Colonel West."  Things that make you go hmmmm....

Jack
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: LSThiker on October 30, 2014, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: ColonelJack on October 30, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
...who, for some reason, was referred to as "Colonel West."  Things that make you go hmmmm....

Jack

A shapeshifter already in the mist that tried to start a war between the Klingons and the Federation.  Hmmmm  :)

The Star Trek executives admitted that the costume department was very inconsistent on rank.  After all, even the rank insignia of Chief O'Brien in ST:TNG changed from Chief to Ensign to Lt.  It was not until DS9 that it was finalized as a Chief pip.  A few other rank insignia constantly changed as well for all of the Star Treks.   
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: NIN on October 30, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
I thought I had problems with the ladies... And then you nerds showed up.

:)
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: FlyTiger77 on October 30, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: NIN on October 26, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
Basically, only a balloon or a sub orbital space craft is going to be able to take somebody up for that kind of parachute jump without dealing with massive amounts of atmospheric heating.

But once they lasso an asteroid and build the great space elevator...
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: lordmonar on October 30, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Would that the be considered BASE jumping?  :)
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: LSThiker on October 30, 2014, 06:28:54 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 30, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Would that the be considered BASE jumping?  :)

Not much E at 135,000 ft.  :)
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: NIN on October 30, 2014, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: LSThiker on October 30, 2014, 06:28:54 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 30, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Would that the be considered BASE jumping?  :)

Not much E at 135,000 ft.  :)

If the E is an Asteroid.. maybe ;)
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: BHartman007 on December 16, 2014, 03:22:59 PM
We had one of the guys from ILC Dover who built Eustace's space suit come in and give a fascinating presentation on this. He even brought in some of the parts like gloves and a face shield. He had a bunch of neat behind the scenes photos and videos from the flight testing and construction. There's going to be a documentary aired on one of the sciencyish cable channels soon.

He said Eustace had a rule that if you leaked any of the project, you were out. He didn't want it to be seen as a Google thing because of his job.
Title: Re: Google Exec Breaks Baumgartner's Space Jump Record
Post by: NIN on December 16, 2014, 04:52:39 PM
Quote from: BHartman007 on December 16, 2014, 03:22:59 PM
He said Eustace had a rule that if you leaked any of the project, you were out. He didn't want it to be seen as a Google thing because of his job.

I queried my buddy from Performance Designs (the parachute manufacturer). He didn't say it in so many words, but that was the impression I got, too.