CAP Parachute Units

Started by SarDragon, March 14, 2014, 03:33:26 AM

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SarDragon

From another thread:

Quote from: shuman14 on September 15, 2013, 11:41:23 PM
Quote from: NIN on September 15, 2013, 02:27:11 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on September 15, 2013, 01:53:27 PM
Don't act like you haven't thought about it >:D

CAP Parachute Wings?



I wear 'em all the time.

Yeah, but substituting balloon wings is just.. lame :)

Not to sound ignorant but does/did CAP have a Parachute qualification?

CAP Parachute Units (1942-45)
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Eclipse

"XO Comments: Feel it is inappropriate to issue a badge for an activity that is prohibited in CAP..."

Guy from PAWG wakes up mid-stream and jots down "Note to self: Appropriate to issue badges for an activity that is prohibited in CAP."

Seriously, though, a lot of good stuff in that document.

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sarmed1

Quote from: Eclipse on March 14, 2014, 03:39:33 AM
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Guy from PAWG wakes up mid-stream and jots down "Note to self: Appropriate to issue badges for an activity that is prohibited in CAP."
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Word of mouth history has it there was post WWII a "unit" (or group of members anyway) in PAWG that did the same.... no one has been able to provide a paper trail of any kind to sunstantiate said rumor (other than a two liner or so on wikipedia)......  It suposedly lends it self to the origin of the original  "airborne" ranger patch for PA that preceded the current search and rescue/ LL worn by HMRS graduates/staff



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NIN

I have a copy of that source document from Max Calderwood that he sent me circa 1996 or something.

I also have a PDF of a much higher rez scan of that Osprey book, need to dig it up.
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RiverAux

FYI, the 1949 CAP annual report says that Parachute Training Squadron 224-1 in New Jersey was deactivated in 1948 (page 8)

pierson777

This is from the 1943 Preflight Study Manual for Civil Air Patrol Cadets.  It's sort of a leadership and aerospace textbook.  It's not full on parachute training, but I thought it was pretty cool that it was part of the study curriculum.  Back then, cadets were ages 15-18 years old.

NIN

And from SARDragon's original paste, I'm still wearing my CAP parachute wings. Right now as a matter of fact. LOL.
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Quote from: NIN on March 15, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
And from SARDragon's original paste, I'm still wearing my CAP parachute wings. Right now as a matter of fact. LOL.
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Quote from: lordmonar on March 15, 2014, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: NIN on March 15, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
And from SARDragon's original paste, I'm still wearing my CAP parachute wings. Right now as a matter of fact. LOL.
That's because you are hard core, mean fighting machine!

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nomiddlemas

Quote from: pierson777 on March 15, 2014, 03:39:41 AM
This is from the 1943 Preflight Study Manual for Civil Air Patrol Cadets.  It's sort of a leadership and aerospace textbook.  It's not full on parachute training, but I thought it was pretty cool that it was part of the study curriculum.  Back then, cadets were ages 15-18 years old.

Wow.  Very nice.  We still are ages all the way up through 18.  I dont think that has changed. 

pierson777

Quote from: nomiddlemas on March 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: pierson777 on March 15, 2014, 03:39:41 AM

Wow.  Very nice.  We still are ages all the way up through 18.  I dont think that has changed.

Well...yes...sort of yes, sort of no.  I was pointing out the cadet age in this manual, 15 - 18, as a comparison to the age now, 12-18, and up to 20 if they join before 19.  So, both the upper and lower ages were different.  I suspect nearly all male cadets joined the armed forces once they were old enough during WWII.  So, there was little need for 19-20 year old cadets.

rugger1869

Quote from: pierson777 on March 18, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: nomiddlemas on March 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: pierson777 on March 15, 2014, 03:39:41 AM

Wow.  Very nice.  We still are ages all the way up through 18.  I dont think that has changed.

Well...yes...sort of yes, sort of no.  I was pointing out the cadet age in this manual, 15 - 18, as a comparison to the age now, 12-18, and up to 20 if they join before 19.  So, both the upper and lower ages were different.  I suspect nearly all male cadets joined the armed forces once they were old enough during WWII.  So, there was little need for 19-20 year old cadets.

Except, back during WWII you couldn't "legally" join the Armed Forces until you were 21.

Private Investigator

Quote from: rugger1869 on March 18, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
Quote from: pierson777 on March 18, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: nomiddlemas on March 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: pierson777 on March 15, 2014, 03:39:41 AM

Wow.  Very nice.  We still are ages all the way up through 18.  I dont think that has changed.

Well...yes...sort of yes, sort of no.  I was pointing out the cadet age in this manual, 15 - 18, as a comparison to the age now, 12-18, and up to 20 if they join before 19.  So, both the upper and lower ages were different.  I suspect nearly all male cadets joined the armed forces once they were old enough during WWII.  So, there was little need for 19-20 year old cadets.

Except, back during WWII you couldn't "legally" join the Armed Forces until you were 21.

The other day the iconic sailor in the LIFE magazine cover, kissing a nurse on V-E Day just pass. He mentioned he joined at 15.  8)

rugger1869

Quote from: Private Investigator on March 18, 2014, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: rugger1869 on March 18, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
Quote from: pierson777 on March 18, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: nomiddlemas on March 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: pierson777 on March 15, 2014, 03:39:41 AM

Wow.  Very nice.  We still are ages all the way up through 18.  I dont think that has changed.

Well...yes...sort of yes, sort of no.  I was pointing out the cadet age in this manual, 15 - 18, as a comparison to the age now, 12-18, and up to 20 if they join before 19.  So, both the upper and lower ages were different.  I suspect nearly all male cadets joined the armed forces once they were old enough during WWII.  So, there was little need for 19-20 year old cadets.

Except, back during WWII you couldn't "legally" join the Armed Forces until you were 21.

The other day the iconic sailor in the LIFE magazine cover, kissing a nurse on V-E Day just pass. He mentioned he joined at 15.  8)

I had an uncle that joined at 16... doesn't mean he was legal.

lordmonar

Quote from: rugger1869 on March 18, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
Except, back during WWII you couldn't "legally" join the Armed Forces until you were 21.
???
Strange that they seemed to be drafting a lot of 18 year old kids......so maybe you are just using the word "legally" differently.
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rugger1869

Yep, you're right. I didn't know that FDR changed the rule by Executive Order from 21-45 to 18-38.

I was incorrect. Carry on.

pierson777

There are several stories of teenagers that lied about their age and enlisted early.  17 year olds could legally get get parent permission to join the military back then and still today. 

In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26.  In Vietnam he was 19.  In in in in in in in Vietnam he was 19.

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LSThiker

Quote from: pierson777 on March 19, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
There are several stories of teenagers that lied about their age and enlisted early.  17 year olds could legally get get parent permission to join the military back then and still today. 

In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26.  In Vietnam he was 19.  In in in in in in in Vietnam he was 19.

It was not 19.  That is a myth.  For Enlisted, it was 22.  For Officers, it was 28.  Warrant war 24.  11B was 22.  Overall, was 23.
These numbers are from the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF).