Health Services Officer

[Short Field]

^^^ LOL.  You really are new to CAP.   

[JC004]

They only reason I ask is because there has been an increasing ammount of children who are becoming obese in the country. 

I dont know if CAP cadets fit into that statistic but I dont want my cadets to get there... ever.

I am planning on teaching them about nutrition and wellness this upcoming meeting mixed in with their PT session. 

I saw that there is something about nutrition education in the CAP regs but its old lol.

Any way I could get these things updated or submit something so it could be updated?

Umm...well, see, it's like this.  In order to get a reg changed, it'll have to be approved by the National Board.  So you will want to submit it to your local friendly National Board member (wing commander).  Generally, they will refer it to committee unless it's be hashed out as far as those specialty issues before it is brought to a vote.

They like to change regulations, but generally only to add unnecessary requirements or change uniforms.  So you'd have your best luck with a rider strategy, such as what is used in Congress.  The whole thing is a lot like this, actually:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

[KioGoten]

Awwww man... why is it so hard to change something so small? lol

Oh well, I will try to get something changed, the kids deserve it.

Would a petition help things along?

[arajca]

A petition probably wouldn't help.

An interesting read is the Sept 09 NB minutes (here), page 47. A real HSO program was approved. Just need to follow up with National to see how it's developing.

Also, several years ago, a proposal for an HSO track was developed. After HWSRN was removed, the proposal languished. It's available on the CAP Health Services Yahoo! group or see the attachments below.

[JayT]

They only reason I ask is because there has been an increasing ammount of children who are becoming obese in the country. 

I dont know if CAP cadets fit into that statistic but I dont want my cadets to get there... ever.

I am planning on teaching them about nutrition and wellness this upcoming meeting mixed in with their PT session. 

I saw that there is something about nutrition education in the CAP regs but its old lol.

Any way I could get these things updated or submit something so it could be updated?

There's nothing to stop you from starting your own program and spreading the ideas and documetns via CAPTalk and Cadet Stuff. Grass roots at it's finest!

[Ned]

I am planning on teaching them about nutrition and wellness this upcoming meeting mixed in with their PT session. 

I saw that there is something about nutrition education in the CAP regs its old lol.

Any way I could get these things updated or submit something so it could be updated?

Capt,

Were you looking at Chapter Three of CAPP 52-18 (The Cadet Physical Fitness Program by any chance?

We used the latest government nutrition information when we wrote in in 2003, but I suppose there is always a lot of science going on in this area.  We'd like to be current in the information we pass along to the troops.

Please let us know what we can do to imporve.

Ned Lee
Acting National Cadet Advisor

[Pylon]

And to answer your earlier question about making Major:  completing Level 3, accruing 3 years TIG as a Captain, and convincing your chain to sign off on your promotion is the way that everybody else does it.

[KioGoten]

Capt,

Were you looking at Chapter Three of CAPP 52-18 (The Cadet Physical Fitness Program by any chance?

We used the latest government nutrition information when we wrote in in 2003, but I suppose there is always a lot of science going on in this area.  We'd like to be current in the information we pass along to the troops.

Please let us know what we can do to imporve.

Ned Lee
Acting National Cadet Advisor

Ned,

There are much newer facts concerning nutrition and exercise now from 2003-2010.  The mypyramid.gov has changed and portion sizes have changed.  Exercise has also increase from 15-20 minutes to 20-30 minutes a day.  Of course this doesnt mean running for 20-30 even though that would be best, but at least 20-30 minutes of activity.

There is a HUGE list, I could get some material together and put it up here and see what you guys think.

[Pylon]

The mypyramid.gov has changed and portion sizes have changed.

Though really the value of the recommendations of a governmental/political body which is subjected to the influences of some very large and wealthy lobbies is dubious at best.

[KioGoten]

Though really the value of the recommendations of a governmental/political body which is subjected to the influences of some very large and wealthy lobbies is dubious at best.

Mike,

You are very much right.  For this reason, studies which are not bias should be used for the standard of care in nutrition and exercise.  But since mypyramid.gov is a standard, one should compare the study results to the website and the information which was gathered there. 

For the most part mp.gov is alright, I would improve things but something that is free... ehhh I guess it will do 

[Short Field]

And to answer your earlier question about making Major:  completing Level 3, accruing 3 years TIG as a Captain, and convincing your chain to sign off on your promotion is the way that everybody else does it.

I think he just needs 3 years TIG.
According to CAPR Reg 35-5 para 5-2.

Training Requirements. Professional personnel must complete Level I prior to appointment to CAP officer grade. Health Service personnel, legal officers, professional educators serving as aerospace education officers and financial professionals serving as finance officers are exempt from all other training requirements prescribed for promotion to additional grades.

Further down CAPR Reg 35-5 in para 5-4.

Promotions.
a. After initial appointment, professional personnel may be eligible for future promotions by satisfying the requirements outlined in paragraph 2-1, except:
(1) Health service personnel and legal officers are exempt from senior member professional development requirements after Level I.

[KioGoten]

Cool,

That rocks lol.
Happy happy joy joy... (For all the ren and stimpy fans)

Now is it 1 year TIG for promotion or is it 3 years?  Because I know chaplains have to follow the same routine right?

[dhon27]

Read the reg: CAPR 35-5, Section E, 5-4.

[ßτε]

CAPR 35-5 para. 5-3c(4) may apply:

Major. Licensed physician appointed a unit health service program officer in accordance with CAPR 160-1 who has served 1 year time-in-grade as a captain.

If the HSO is not a licensed physician, then it would be 3 years.

[KioGoten]

Ahhh but what if the HSO had a PhD and is a Professor of 5 years? 

[arajca]

If they are not a LICENSED PHYSICIAN, the other initials don't get anything extra. If they are not serving as AEO, the same with the professorship.