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Title: New UAV?
Post by: wuzafuzz on December 02, 2009, 03:51:49 AM
This is interesting.  Not so secret any more.  For all I know it's actually well known and I'm just not up to date on UAV's.

http://gizmodo.com/5416161/us-secret-plane-uncovered
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Hawk200 on December 02, 2009, 06:14:14 AM
That's a new one to me.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: rjfoxx on December 02, 2009, 08:36:27 PM
The aircraft looks VERY similar to the Navy's experimental UAV, the XB-47.  The XB-47 is a flying wing very similar to the B-2 bomber.  They are both made by Northrup-Grummen.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: SarDragon on December 02, 2009, 09:15:42 PM
What is your source for that info? The Navy doesn't fly 'B' designated aircraft, and the 'B-47' designator has already been used.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Pumbaa on December 02, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
Either an X-45C by Boeing or X-47B by NG.
(http://www.dancewithshadows.com/aviation/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/boeing-x-45-uav.jpg)

Skunkworks also has one too.

A lot of these are referenced as UCAVs.  Unmanned COMBAT aerial vehicles.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: SarDragon on December 02, 2009, 11:17:36 PM
OK, now it makes sense.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Hawk200 on December 04, 2009, 05:31:28 AM
Quote from: Pumbaa on December 02, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
Either an X-45C by Boeing or X-47B by NG.
(http://www.dancewithshadows.com/aviation/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/boeing-x-45-uav.jpg)

Skunkworks also has one too.

A lot of these are referenced as UCAVs.  Unmanned COMBAT aerial vehicles.

Looks like a mini B-2. Judging from the background that one's probably being tested In Palmdale, CA, and possibly at Edwards.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: PHall on December 04, 2009, 06:01:04 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on December 04, 2009, 05:31:28 AM
Quote from: Pumbaa on December 02, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
Either an X-45C by Boeing or X-47B by NG.
(http://www.dancewithshadows.com/aviation/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/boeing-x-45-uav.jpg)

Skunkworks also has one too.

A lot of these are referenced as UCAVs.  Unmanned COMBAT aerial vehicles.

Looks like a mini B-2. Judging from the background that one's probably being tested In Palmdale, CA, and possibly at Edwards.

It flies out of Edwards. It would fly out of Palmdale if the Lockheed "Skunkworks" was involved with the project.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: MikeD on December 07, 2009, 05:15:09 AM
It doesn't look like either the X-45 or X-47.  Most likely it's something similar from Skunk Works.  Epic OPSEC Fail if it's supposed to be secret. 
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: lordmonar on December 07, 2009, 04:20:08 PM
It is an RQ-170

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/BEAST120409.xml&headline=USAF%20Confirms%20Stealthy%20UAV%20Operations&channel=defense (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/BEAST120409.xml&headline=USAF%20Confirms%20Stealthy%20UAV%20Operations&channel=defense)
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: ol'fido on December 07, 2009, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: MikeD on December 07, 2009, 05:15:09 AM
It doesn't look like either the X-45 or X-47.  Most likely it's something similar from Skunk Works.  Epic OPSEC Fail if it's supposed to be secret.
Um...says Boeing PHANTOM WORKSon the side/ Emphasis mine.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: SarDragon on December 08, 2009, 06:04:22 AM
Also note the X-45A on the right wing that I missed the first time i looked.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Smithsonia on December 08, 2009, 12:54:18 PM
X-45A? X-47? However neither is a real UCAV. OMG... there's a little boy in there from Ft. Collins Colorado!!! HELP!!!
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Al Sayre on December 08, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
I think that this thing is actually a model that the engineers are playing with.  I remember seeing a complete video of it about 6 months ago.  It looks real in the video until the final shot where it taxis up to the operator and ends up being about a 6 foot wingspan model...
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Pumbaa on December 09, 2009, 02:19:25 AM
The existence of a new secret plane photographed this week has been confirmed by the United States Air Force. The secret aircraft now has an official denomination: The RQ-170 Sentinel, a flying wing developed by Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works.

The RQ-170 is a stealthy unmanned aircraft designed to "provide reconnaissance and surveillance support to forward deployed combat forces." It's flown by the 30th Reconnaissance Squadron at Tonopah Test Range, Nevada, under the Air Combat Command's 432d Wing at Creech Air Force Base, Nevada.

The aircraft has a 65-foot wingspan, with a fat body and a blended wing design. It's unarmed, and—according to David A. Fulghum at Ares—its light color is unusual for high altitude UAV. [Ares]

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/12/500x_kandahar_uav.jpg)
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Airrace on December 09, 2009, 04:40:06 AM
I was flying near Edwards and seen it in the air earlier in the year. Quite a sight to see with your eyes. It had a chase plane flying close to it.
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on December 09, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091208/pl_afp/usaviationmilitarydrones_20091208212912

QuoteWASHINGTON (AFP) – The US Air Force on Tuesday confirmed for the first time that it is flying a stealth unmanned aircraft known as the "Beast of Kandahar," a drone spotted in photos and shrouded in secrecy.

The RQ-170 Sentinel is being developed by Lockheed Martin and is designed "to provide reconnaissance and surveillance support to forward deployed combat forces," the air force said in a brief statement.

The "RQ" prefix for the aircraft indicates an unarmed drone, unlike the "MQ" designation used for Predator and Reaper aircraft equipped with missiles and precision-guided bombs.

Aviation experts dubbed the drone the "Beast of Kandahar" after photographs emerged earlier this year showing the mysterious aircraft in southern Afghanistan in 2007.

The image suggested a drone with a radar-evading stealth-like design, resembling a smaller version of a B-2 bomber.

A blog in the French newspaper Liberation published another photo this week, feeding speculation among aviation watchers about the classified drone.

The air force said the aircraft came out of Lockheed Martin's "Skunk Works," also known as Advanced Development Programs, in California -- the home of sophisticated and often secret defense projects including the U-2 spy plane, the F-22 fighter jet and the F-117 Nighthawk.

The photo of the drone in Afghanistan has raised questions about why the United States would be operating a stealth unmanned aircraft in a country where insurgents have no radar systems, prompting speculation Washington was using the drones for possible spying missions in neighboring Iran or Pakistan.

The Sentinel was believed to have a flying wing design with no tail and with sensors built into the top side of each wing, according to published photos.

The RQ-170 is in line with Defense Secretary Robert Gates' request for more intelligence and surveillance resources and with the Air Force chief of staff's plans to expand the fleet of unmanned aircraft, the air force said.

The new drone is flown by the 30th Reconnaissance Squadron out of Tonopah Test Range in Nevada, which is under Air Combat Command's 432nd Wing at Creech Air Base, also in Nevada.

The United States has carried out an extensive bombing campaign against Al-Qaeda figures in Pakistan using the Predator and larger Reaper drones.

Robots or "unmanned systems" in the air and on the ground are now deployed by the thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan, spying from the sky for hours on end, searching for booby-traps and firing lethal missiles without putting US soldiers at risk.

Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: MikeD on December 14, 2009, 06:14:42 AM
Quote from: olefido on December 07, 2009, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: MikeD on December 07, 2009, 05:15:09 AM
It doesn't look like either the X-45 or X-47.  Most likely it's something similar from Skunk Works.  Epic OPSEC Fail if it's supposed to be secret.
Um...says Boeing PHANTOM WORKSon the side/ Emphasis mine.

The original link in this thread doesn't.  Someone posted a pic of the X-45 later on in the thread (which has blue trim).
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: FARRIER on December 17, 2009, 09:14:12 AM
http://www.auvsi.org/AUVSI/AUVSI/Home/

Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International
Title: Re: New UAV?
Post by: Senior on January 20, 2010, 04:23:24 AM
 :1)Variation on the theme of the scaled down flying wing.  Interesting, how someone got that close to take the picture. The landing gear looks really stout for a surviellance platform.  I am glad we have one more thing to take the fight to the enemy. :clap: