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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: jimmydeanno on July 25, 2007, 02:31:38 PM

Title: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: jimmydeanno on July 25, 2007, 02:31:38 PM
Here's some interesting news for you.

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/homepage/x1537925417

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The pilot of a single-engine Cessna and his passenger walked away unscathed yesterday after their plane ran out of gas and made an emergency landing on a busy Interstate 495 clogged with afternoon rush hour traffic.

Allan Kidd and Steve Bradshaw, friends from Michigan, were on their way to a reunion of Vietnam War veterans in Quincy.

The Cessna 170A, piloted by Kidd, was headed for Norwood Memorial Airport when the 1949 fixed-wing plane ran out of fuel.

As if the 30 airports they passed flying through Mass weren't enough to get gas,  there are 7 airports within a 20 mile raidius of where they landed, 5 of them were within a few miles of where they landed.

Go figure...

Good safety briefing I guess...
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: Capt M. Sherrod on July 25, 2007, 03:00:48 PM
What I found interesting wast that he said that he couldn't get clearance to land at the airport he was trying to go to, and that he didn't know the name of the airport he was trying to land at or the second one he attempted to get to before setting it down on 495.

Here's the article from the <<Boston Globe>>  (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/07/24/out_of_gas_pilot_lands_on_i_495/)
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: BillB on July 25, 2007, 05:05:47 PM
Historically, one of the original concepts of the Interstate highway system was an emergency runway for military aircraft. That's why you see so few overpasses (interstates go over not under overpasses in general) on the long streches and the wide shoulders. President Eisenhower (sp) was impressed by the German Autobaun which was used as airstrips by the Germans that it was included in the Interstate highway program.
I've seen in Florida where the Highway Patrol will stop traffic to allow a plane to take off after refueling or minor mainenance.
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: jimmydeanno on July 25, 2007, 07:16:38 PM
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are circling for that long and you are short on fuel, then ATC tells you to divert to another airport, don't you tell them, "I don't have enough fuel to divert."?  At that point, don't you take priority for landing?

BTW, all you pilots out there, what is the penalty in terms of FAA regulations for running out of gas in your plane?
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on July 25, 2007, 07:31:07 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 25, 2007, 07:16:38 PM
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are circling for that long and you are short on fuel, then ATC tells you to divert to another airport, don't you tell them, "I don't have enough fuel to divert."?  At that point, don't you take priority for landing?

BTW, all you pilots out there, what is the penalty in terms of FAA regulations for running out of gas in your plane?

Absolutely, Jimmy.  Declare "Low fuel" and when they tell you to go somewhere that you don't have the juice to get to, say "Unable."

I don't know what the penalty is for running out of gas.  I have never done it.
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: RogueLeader on July 25, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
I don't think I'd ever want to.  I would  have to be cazy in order to do so, but not like Murdoch (sp)
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: Capt M. Sherrod on July 25, 2007, 07:42:51 PM
"Pity da foo..."
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: pixelwonk on July 26, 2007, 01:55:16 AM
Don't forget this one in Fond Du Lac WI, just south of EAA on Sunday.

Maverick has the ball... (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mHedj-mFI3Y)
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: BillB on July 26, 2007, 03:31:01 AM
A Piper landed on a highway in Florida today when the engine quit on takeoff. The pilot got the engine started after kabding and the Sheriffs Deputies escorted the plane down the road and back to the airport.
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: SARPilotNY on July 26, 2007, 03:45:16 AM
There is one thing that will guarantee a cite by the FAA and that is running out of fuel! 
Also...declare an emergency and the airspace is yours...
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: Matt on July 26, 2007, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: tedda on July 26, 2007, 01:55:16 AM
Don't forget this one in Fond Du Lac WI, just south of EAA on Sunday.

Maverick has the ball... (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mHedj-mFI3Y)

You mean the one wherest the State Trooper appears to have pulled the plane over?

(http://msoe.edu/~koppm/Misc/T6_Traffic_Stop.jpg)
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: RogueLeader on July 26, 2007, 04:00:20 PM
What happened  to the wings on the patrol car, and what kind of motor does he have.  Man, getting that Ford up into the air can't have been easy.   Wait, it must have been the Force. :angel: :clap:
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on July 26, 2007, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: BillB on July 26, 2007, 03:31:01 AM
A Piper landed on a highway in Florida today when the engine quit on takeoff. The pilot got the engine started after kabding and the Sheriffs Deputies escorted the plane down the road and back to the airport.

Bill:

The news here reported that the aircraft was towed back to the field.  it was at Titusville-Cocoa (Same place where we had the airshow crash) and he lost power about 100-200 feet off the ground. He set it down on the road that runs adjacent to the airport.

Don't know the cause of the power loss, but the pilot had only earned his license in the past year, and had just purchased the aircraft.   
Title: Re: Cessna lands on highway...
Post by: Matt on July 26, 2007, 06:28:23 PM
He decided to lose his engine on the way down... the Trooper was just (ironically) getting on as the plane flew over...