'trenches' at ES school?

Started by ElectricPenguin, January 24, 2011, 01:51:34 AM

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ol'fido

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BillB

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Eclipse

Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2011, 08:27:18 PM
Erm, really? During the basic course, we definitely were out in the woods for a few days, and there were no toilets in sight the entire time.

While I don't dispute your personal experience, I just pinged a member of GTM staff and was told there are facilities for the bivouacs.

"That Others May Zoom"

Nathan

Quote from: Eclipse on January 25, 2011, 03:42:44 AM
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2011, 08:27:18 PM
Erm, really? During the basic course, we definitely were out in the woods for a few days, and there were no toilets in sight the entire time.

While I don't dispute your personal experience, I just pinged a member of GTM staff and was told there are facilities for the bivouacs.

Hey, I don't doubt it. Maybe they were available on request, or are new, or just weren't available during my week. I don't know. Whatever the reason, it's probably a good thing that our team dug a  hole instead of just holding it for the couple of days until we returned to the barracks.  :)
Nathan Scalia

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coudano

Personally, as a senior member i took advantage of my ability to control it until i got back to a real toilet, haha.  With a little self control and diet choice you can probably hold it for a few days...(not saying you should, but you can)
But bgsar we werent outside more than one consecutive night as i recall,

There were porta out there but the cadets around me were too lazy to walk when there was a tree much closer, or simply did what everyone else did, or maybe just didnt know about them.

Again the curric has probably changed since you attended, not sure when you went...

Nathan

07, I think. Maybe 06. Can't recall for sure.
Nathan Scalia

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husker

The Port-O-Johns started appearing in the training ranges around the 07-08 timeframe.  Camp Atterbury has been putting hundreds of thousands of dollars into modernizing their facilities, which includes both the training and live fire ranges.  The port-o-johns are generally out in the ranges when there are civilian contractors out working.   This has been the case for the past several years.   The Basic school historically has gone back to the cantonment area at least once a day, but the Advanced school does stay out in the training area for several days at a time.
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Ned

I can clearly recall some of my best Army training in the field at places like Fort Ord, Fort Lewis, etc.

When having land nav problems during a movement to contact, simply find the "enemy's" bright blue or green porta-johns and then attack 50 meters to the left or right of the toilets. 

Solved a lot of problems.

I understand we have been trying to ship a free green porta-john to Osama for some reason . . .

manfredvonrichthofen

When in some places like Atterbury as a cadet I would have much preferred to use a slit trench than the outhouses they had. One giant long trough to urinate in filled with maggots and flies feeding off the mold. Same way in Fort Benning in OSUT. If there are the facilities then use them, if not dig yourself a slit trench and use some ponchos to divide the slit trench if you need to. Otherwise get your squadron a WAG kit. You can order them with the stool and they generally come with 100 or more WAG bags.

ElectricPenguin

Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on January 29, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
When in some places like Atterbury as a cadet I would have much preferred to use a slit trench than the outhouses they had. One giant long trough to urinate in filled with maggots and flies feeding off the mold. Same way in Fort Benning in OSUT. If there are the facilities then use them, if not dig yourself a slit trench and use some ponchos to divide the slit trench if you need to. Otherwise get your squadron a WAG kit. You can order them with the stool and they generally come with 100 or more WAG bags.

That's disgusting. And what the **** (no pun intended) is a wag bag???

manfredvonrichthofen

Quote from: ElectricPenguin on January 30, 2011, 02:49:58 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on January 29, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
When in some places like Atterbury as a cadet I would have much preferred to use a slit trench than the outhouses they had. One giant long trough to urinate in filled with maggots and flies feeding off the mold. Same way in Fort Benning in OSUT. If there are the facilities then use them, if not dig yourself a slit trench and use some ponchos to divide the slit trench if you need to. Otherwise get your squadron a WAG kit. You can order them with the stool and they generally come with 100 or more WAG bags.

That's disgusting. And what the **** (no pun intended) is a wag bag???
WAG (Waste Alleviation and Gelling) bags are pretty much like a toilet in a bag. They have a beaded chemical in the bottom of the bag that keeps everything from reeking while it is in the bag. They are useful in areas that don't allow digging and don't have any form of a latrine.

a2capt

Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on January 29, 2011, 04:52:59 PMYou can order them with the stool and they generally come with 100 or more WAG bags.
Wow, such a deal! Cut the middle man right out. Pre-stocked, ready to go! .. (or gone already).

Oh, maybe thats not what you meant.

manfredvonrichthofen

Quote from: a2capt on January 30, 2011, 04:31:16 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on January 29, 2011, 04:52:59 PMYou can order them with the stool and they generally come with 100 or more WAG bags.
Wow, such a deal! Cut the middle man right out. Pre-stocked, ready to go! .. (or gone already).

Oh, maybe thats not what you meant.
Hahaha Nice Sir. No, that is not what I meant by stool. Some of your thought processes make me want to hurl  :o(mixed with) :-[. By stool I meant a toiletish seat.