Air Force Sword

[schreiberboy]

Has there ever been any talk about bringing in the USAF or USAFA parade sword for cadet officers? 

[SarDragon]

Has there ever been any talk about bringing in the USAF or USAFA parade sword for cadet officers? 

I hope not!

[shorning]

Has there ever been any talk about bringing in the USAF or USAFA parade sword for cadet officers? 

Why?  What purpose would it serve?  When would they use it?  What need does it fulfill?  What about it being specifically banned by our regs?



BTW, the USAF does not have a sword.  The Academy does however.

[schreiberboy]

Has there ever been any talk about bringing in the USAF or USAFA parade sword for cadet officers? 

Why?  What purpose would it serve?  When would they use it?  What need does it fulfill?  What about it being specifically banned by our regs?

I think it could be used for the same reasons that it's used at the academy- for drill/parade cermonies.  I hadn't read about it being banned either, where does it mention that?

[mprokosch11]

During a parade our First Sergeant used his JROTC sword on the color guard, I wasnt sure if he could do that.

[schreiberboy]

During a parade our First Sergeant used his JROTC sword on the color guard, I wasnt sure if he could do that.

you were probably doing an army-style color guard like they do at my school- where the color guard commander stands in back?

[shorning]

I hadn't read about it being banned either, where does it mention that?

This demonstrates a good reason why cadets should be familiar the the rules that govern their programs. 

1-5c. Weapons. ...There will be no firearms, air guns, paint guns, or any device that could be used as a weapon at any cadet activity. ...

and

1.3. Restrictions. CAP regulations are the standards that all CAP members follow. Some of these regulations impact the Unit Honor Guard. For example, CAP Regulation 52-16 states that devices that can be used as a weapon are not allowed. Only non-operating (meaning not capable of firing) rifles are allowed. Therefore, no bayonets, sabers, swords, and the like, are allowed. ...

You can read it for yourself here and here.

[shorning]

...I wasnt sure if he could do that.

No, he can't.  See above.

[schreiberboy]

Thanks for informing me of that! I had seen the 52-16 1-5c but I didn't really consider a parade sword a weapon being that it isn't sharp (A butter knife could do more damage....) but the 52-8 makes it clear.

[mprokosch11]

During a parade our First Sergeant used his JROTC sword on the color guard, I wasnt sure if he could do that.

you were probably doing an army-style color guard like they do at my school- where the color guard commander stands in back?

No, he stood right next to the Senior rifleman.

[Chris Jacobs]

If there can be no weapons or any thing that can be used as a wepon at a cadet activity then how can cadets carry knifes for ground teams.  It is actualy in the ground team meber reference text.  So there seem to be exemptions to the rule.

[schreiberboy]

If there can be no weapons or any thing that can be used as a wepon at a cadet activity then how can cadets carry knifes for ground teams.  It is actualy in the ground team meber reference text.  So there seem to be exemptions to the rule.

I've heard (not read) that during SAREXs and such that you can carry a blade but it must be under 3 1/2 inches or something like that...

[schreiberboy]

No, he stood right next to the Senior rifleman.
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Then i don't know what he was thinking- I'm suprised he got away with it- he really should have known better.  I have a JROTC sword too but I've never even thought of using it in a CAP color guard.

[Marine Corps Gal]

I think the sword would look awesome in parades too, but... ah well.

And YES, there must be exemptions to the "no-weapons-at-cadet-activities" rule, because knives ARE allowed.  It must be 3 and a half inches or less, but it is nevertheless allowed (I should know; I always carry one ).

[shorning]

I think the sword would look awesome in parades too, but... ah well.

And YES, there must be exemptions to the "no-weapons-at-cadet-activities" rule, because knives ARE allowed.  It must be 3 and a half inches or less, but it is nevertheless allowed (I should know; I always carry one ).

I'm going to guess that you didn't bother to read the regs and aren't familiar with the law.

[mikeylikey]

So when do you think Vanguard will start selling this sword?

[Pylon]

So when do you think Vanguard will start selling this sword?

Stirring the pot, I see?   

[smj58501]

Are light sabers forbidden? They are weapons by imagination only consisting of technology that has not been invented yet, even though they were used a long time ago in a place far, far away....

[Al Sayre]

You usually can't let two cadets have brooms at the same time without either a mock sword fight or a mock cudgel fight breaking out.  Why on earth would we want to give them real weapons?  Do you know how much paperwork we would have to fill out if someone got stabbed?   That would really cut into our donut eatin time...   Seriously though, it would be a bad idea.

[shorning]

Do you know how much paperwork we would have to fill out if someone got stabbed?

Speaking of which, the staple, ruler and pen could also be weapons.  But I digress...