Potential for outcry over required weigh-ins

[wingnut55]

Diddo

I have been trying to go the other way simply because I find it alot more comfortable to be flying with 30 pounds less. Maybe we can start a CAP fatboy program!! Fly the border 2 weekends per month when it is 120 degrees. Oh baby that is a way to go.

Cheaper then Jenny Craig

[Nolan Teel]

I agree that we must lead by example.... but lets face it....  whens the last time you saw CAP uphold a standard for uniforms to seniors?  Dear god... forget to turn the transponder off in a CAP Aircraft... the wrath of god is on you!

[BrandonKea]

I agree that we must lead by example.... but lets face it....  whens the last time you saw CAP uphold a standard for uniforms to seniors?  Dear god... forget to turn the transponder off in a CAP Aircraft... the wrath of god is on you!

That's one thing that killed me as a Cadet was to see seniors that really didn't care. I don't want to be that SMember that some Cadet now looks at and says "wow, wish he'd follow the rules." That whole thing about Integrity and Leading by Example doesn't stop when you cross into the Grey.

But then there's the obvious question, who's going to police the issue? Face it folks, it's not a priority for most. As was stated earlier, most Seniors would rather wear the Polo and Slacks than the full uniform if they had too.

[Spike]

As was stated earlier, most Seniors would rather wear the Polo and Slacks than the full uniform if they had too.

That's just it, there is not "set" uniform for Seniors.  Cadets are required to wear the Blue AF Style.  BDU's and everything else are good to have, but not mandatory. 

For Seniors they must wear "a uniform".  Nothing set in stone.  Honestly, for what I do in CAP, the Polo is better than BDU's/ AF style every time. 

Don't mistake your Cadet time and experiences for those of a Senior Member.  Apples and Oranges. 

[Eclipse]

As was stated earlier, most Seniors would rather wear the Polo and Slacks than the full uniform if they had too.

That's just it, there is not "set" uniform for Seniors.  Cadets are required to wear the Blue AF Style.  BDU's and everything else are good to have, but not mandatory. 

Please read page one eight of CAPM 39-1.  The Aviator whites are required for all members to posses, unless the have the blue short-sleeve service dress.  The assumption that the golf shirt is the basic uniform for senior members is a wives tale.

Allow me to assist...

COMPLIANCE WITH THIS PUBLICATION IS MANDATORY.

1-5. Uniform Combinations. Various combinations of CAP uniforms are authorized in order to allow
for various climatic conditions, availability of uniforms, etc., but no member is obligated to equip
himself/herself with all or even a major part of the combinations described in this publication. Members
will equip themselves with the basic uniform. The minimum basic uniforms for male and female cadets and senior members, which will satisfy most occasions, are listed below. Members may obtain and wear the additional uniform items authorized in this publication on an optional basis. Uniform clothing may be altered to improve fit. However, alterations must not change the intended appearance of garment as designed. It is the member's personal responsibility to equip himself/herself with a proper uniform.

Commanders may assist if they have the capability, through use of unit funds and/or donations or by
acquiring surplus uniforms. Cadets are required to have the minimum basic uniform. A commander
may require cadets to wear other optional uniform items only if the purchase is voluntary or if the
uniform is supplied without expense to the cadet. The omission of a specific item or appearance standard
does not automatically permit its wear.

a. Minimum Basic Service Uniform. Male: Short-sleeve, light blue shirt; dark blue trousers; blue
belt/silver buckle, blue flight cap; black shoes, and socks. Insignia: CAP nameplate, shoulder patch,
collar/lapel insignia, embroidered epaulet sleeve, and flight cap emblem. Female: Short-sleeve light
blue blouse; Dark blue skirt or slacks; flight cap; neutral nylon hose; black shoes; black handbag.
Insignia: CAP nameplate, shoulder patch, collar/lapel insignia, embroidered epaulet sleeve, and flight
cap emblem.

b. CAP Distinctive Basic Uniform (senior members only). Male: Short-sleeve, white aviator shirt;
gray trousers; black belt; black shoes and socks. Insignia: CAP nameplate, embroidered epaulet sleeve.
Female: Short-sleeve, white aviator shirt; gray slacks or skirt; plain black shoes. Insignia: CAP
nameplate, embroidered epaulet sleeve.

[Spike]

Please read page one of CAPM 39-1.  The Aviator whites are required for all members to posses, unless the have the blue short-sleeve service dress.  The assumption that the golf shirt is the basic uniform for senior members is a wives tale.

Actually Page 8.  Thank you for the correction. 

[Nolan Teel]

Do you ever think anyone from National read these posts to get a pulse on the members?

[AlphaSigOU]

They do lurk; few, if any participate actively lest they get bombarded with needless emails and PMs from the membership.

[PaulR]

Regulations are regulations.  As stated here on many occasions, we cannot pick and choose the ones that best fit individual needs.  Senior members need to be within the weight/BMI limits to wear the AF style uniform.  This is a no brainer everyone. 

[arajca]

Regulations are regulations.  As stated here on many occasions, we cannot pick and choose the ones that best fit individual needs.  Senior members need to be within the weight/BMI limits to wear the AF style uniform.  This is a no brainer everyone.

It's weight only. BMI is not used and has not standing for uniforms.

[BrandonKea]

Regulations are regulations.  As stated here on many occasions, we cannot pick and choose the ones that best fit individual needs.  Senior members need to be within the weight/BMI limits to wear the AF style uniform.  This is a no brainer everyone.

It's weight only. BMI is not used and has not standing for uniforms.

BMI = FAIL

Anything that says Arnold Schwarzenegger and Tom Arnold are the same level of fit is ridiculous.

Sorry, pet peeve.

[RiverAux]

Though CAP doesn't specifically use BMI, as I mentioned before there is almost a match between the maximimum allowable weight for a particular height and the generally accepted BMI interpretation of what is "Obese".  I think this is just a cooincidence though.