Cords on Class As/Bs

[AvroArrow]

I was wondering on how to wear cords for both our Blues and Class-As.

I should know by now, but I've seen them been worn two different ways. One way is hanging on the end closest to your elbow under the epaulette, and the other way is hanging it around this thread near the button at the end of the epaulette nearest to your neck.

So, I got to know: which one is more correct?

[TankerT]

Uh oh...

Word of advice... DUCK!

[Duke Dillio]

I'll be nice and answer.

It depends on the cord.  Most of the cords that I have seen have a little loop at the top which goes where the button on your epaulet is.  I have seen some of the honor guard/color guard people wearing them right at the seam which looks okay I guess, but my preference is for the button loop thingy.

Now you can duck.  I hear....   INCOMING!!!!!

[MIKE]

So, I got to know: which one is more correct?

What does CAPM 39-1 say?  That is where you will find how shoulder cords are worn on service dress and other service uniform combinations.

It depends on the cord.  Most of the cords that I have seen have a little loop at the top which goes where the button on your epaulet is.  I have seen some of the honor guard/color guard people wearing them right at the seam which looks okay I guess, but my preference is for the button loop thingy.

Hint: RTFM.

[AvroArrow]

Right, well I'm a total nooby. Only been in the CAP program for so long 

I am looking in the CAPM 39-1, and I can't find anything that regulates how/where to wear the shoulder cords.

yeah 

[Eclipse]

The search function is your friend.

I see only one option for wear, repeated in several places, including at least two color photos, several tables, and a line diagram.

[AvroArrow]

The search function is your friend.

I see only one option for wear, repeated in several places, including at least two color photos, several tables, and a line diagram.

I did use the search function... it found nothing

[MIKE]

CAPM 39-1 5-5. and Figure 5-2.  That's Chapter 5

^ Click Me

[Eclipse]

The search function is your friend.

I see only one option for wear, repeated in several places, including at least two color photos, several tables, and a line diagram.

I did use the search function... it found nothing

You searched for the word "cord" and found nothing?

I find 33 occurances, including a fair number of it inside "accordance".

[Maj Ballard]

Not to sound harsh, but a C/SSgt (NCO and developing leader, presumably responsible for instructing uniform standards) should be knowledgeable about how to access and effectively search the electronic version of CAPM 39-1.

If you've not been taught or shown, now's a great time to learn. It's as simple as opening the document and searching for "shoulder cords." The fact that you've searched and found nothing is concerning. Are you looking at the most recent version?

It's very important that the manual is always the FIRST place we consult about uniform matters (not our buddy, or the message board). Especially as officers and cadet leaders, our authority must be the standard and not "what we heard."

[AvroArrow]

Right. Thanks. Much appreciated, been wondering on this topic for awhile. :angel:

One question.

Shoulder cords may be worn by cadets at all times. Shoulder cords will be worn along the shoulder
seam and fastened from the underneath, inside the shirt.

I'm looking at my cord right now, and I see absolutely no way how to fasten it from within the shirt.

Maybe I'm just blind and a reallh big idiot, but I don't see much on the cord nor the shirt that would "secure" the cord on the seam.


Edit:

Not to sound harsh, but a C/SSgt (NCO and developing leader, presumably responsible for instructing uniform standards) should be knowledgeable about how to access and effectively search the electronic version of CAPM 39-1.

If you've not been taught or shown, now's a great time to learn. It's as simple as opening the document and searching for "shoulder cords." The fact that you've searched and found nothing is concerning. Are you looking at the most recent version?

It's very important that the manual is always the FIRST place we consult about uniform matters (not our buddy, or the message board). Especially as officers and cadet leaders, our authority must be the standard and not "what we heard."

I specifically searched "should cords," before even making this topic, and all I got was the fact that you get a shoulder cord from successfully being in the Honopr guard. Although, I probably should've looked a little closer before asking, so yeah, it's my mistake...

[Major Carrales]

The search function is your friend.

Not really, threads drift so much at times.  Plus...

A search for the word "cords" produces several listing of everything from Bungee cords, to extention cords or "records."  Plus, I don't think the placement of cords on a service dress uniform has ever been discussed here.

It seems that answering the question here would work best.

[MIKE]

Right. Thanks. Much appreciated, been wondering on this topic for awhile. :angel:

One question.

Shoulder cords may be worn by cadets at all times. Shoulder cords will be worn along the shoulder
seam and fastened from the underneath, inside the shirt.

I'm looking at my cord right now, and I see absolutely no way how to fasten it from within the shirt.

Maybe I'm just blind and a reallh big idiot, but I don't see much on the cord nor the shirt that would "secure" the cord on the seam.

Safety pin(s). http://wiki.cadetstuff.org/index.php?title=Cord_Installation

Edit: Added link.

[Eclipse]

The search function is your friend.

Not really, threads drift so much at time.  It seems that answering the question here would work best.

I was going to, but then it seemed like we were taking the "teach to fish" approach...

[Maj Ballard]

If there's not a safety pin attached to it already, get one and use that. Easiest way I've found.

Maj Carrales, I must respectfully disagree. It is a far greater benefit for a Cadet NCO to learn to use the resources available to him than to be spoon-fed an answer on an internet messageboard.

[AvroArrow]

Safety pin(s).

You sure that'd be ok as far as regulations go? 

[Major Carrales]

If there's not a safety pin attached to it already, get one and use that. Easiest way I've found.

Maj Carrales, I must respectfully disagree. It is a far greater benefit for a Cadet NCO to learn to use the resources available to him than to be spoon-fed an answer on an internet messageboard.

In this case, the answer cannot be found using the search engine.   Obviously the search engine was tried but to no avail. 

By the way, the search feature becomes rather useless and tedious when these formus approach millions of posts.

[Duke Dillio]

Um, read the reg again.  I believe that it says to use three safety pins if I am not mistaken, which I probably am.....  Been up all night workin so my memory tends to slip a bit.

[Maj Ballard]

Safety pin(s).

You sure that'd be ok as far as regulations go? 

Absolutely. Many cords come manufactured with safety pins built-in. Just be careful (obviously) and fasten it in such a way that the pin is not visible.

Maj Carrales, the search function works fine. (We were all referring to searching the PDF of CAPM 39-1, not the search feature of this board.) Otherwise, how did the rest of us find the answer for ourselves so quickly? As I said before, the first place an officer or cadet looks for an answer should be the applicable official documentation, not an internet forum.

[Major Carrales]

Maj Carrales, the search function works fine. (We were all referring to searching the PDF of CAPM 39-1, not the search feature of this board.) Otherwise, how did the rest of us find the answer for ourselves so quickly? As I said before, the first place an officer or cadet looks for an answer should be the applicable official documentation, not an internet forum.

I stand corrected...I simply thought you meant the formus.