Would you correct them?

[RiverAux]

We've all seen senior members (and even occassional cadets) who for one reason or another are wearing a uniform that violates one or more CAP uniform regulations. 

Personally, I get uncomfortable correcting others about uniform issues unless I'm in their chain of command.  Even if you approach the situation as delicately as possible, you're still telling another adult that they're doing something wrong and should fix it and you come out either as a know-it-all or someone who thinks they have the right to order someone around when in fact they don't. 

For me this is an issue regardless of the grade of the other person.  Now, if CAP were the actual military I don't think I would have any problem at all telling someone I outranked to fix something on their uniform, but in CAP we are basically all co-equal adults unless the chain of command is involved. 

Tricky situation.  Thoughts?

[MIKE]

It depends... Lately, in my current non-CAP situation I concern myself with my own uniform... Passive example... but if somebody has a question about the uniform, I'll speak up then.  CAP would be a bit different though...

[Pylon]

At training functions like SLS's and CLC's, I've gone around and helped other senior members with their uniforms and correcting minor infractions.  Since the most common infractions I saw were clearly unintentional (up-side-down membership or leadership ribbons, too many badges on the corporate shirt, etc.) people were generally grateful when I pointed it out to them.  I always brought it up in a friendly, "Hey, did you know..." kind of tone whenever I could find the person during a break or down-time when we weren't around many other people.  It was always received with appreciation by the other s'members, even though I was the youngest guy in the room.

Fellow SM's in my unit?  Sure; we're all on friendly terms.  I point something out and people are generally appreciative and respond with something along the lines of "Oh really?  Huh... didn't know that!"

Would I correct the random Lt Col I didn't know at a Wing Conference?  Probably not a chance.  It all depends on the situation.  Since in the first scenario, we were all already in a "learning" environment, we were all company-grade CAP officers and I was able to catch them privately it worked.

Situation, tone, familiarity with the person in question, and the type of infraction have a lot to do with it, for me.

[CadetProgramGuy]

I voted for the correct everyone, regardless.

Back in the day, I was SM, and Gen Glasgow had a uniform violation.....One of his frogs fell off and his NEC or NB badge on his Mess was dangling. (BTW he was in a receiving line as well......)

Kinda important.

Others in the past,  I tend to pull aside and try to help out.  Some take the help, some don't.

[MIKE]

Thought I'd add:  If you are a squadron command it is your responsibility/duty to insure that those under your command wear the uniform correctly.

[RickFranz]

I have tried very hard to ensure members of the unit that I am in are really squared away.  However I did have one member that I never told his ribbons where wrong.  He was a WWII vet that lost his arm in combat.  He wore two purple hearts.  I asked him about it once, and he told me he actually had 3 of them.  He said, I wear two of them and I guess you can figure out where the third one is, as he motioned to the side where his arm had been.  I know the rules but if he wore his ribbons that way I figured he had earned the right!  I sure was not going to tell him he was wrong and no one else did either.  I had to much respect for the man.  I did make sure all his CAP ribbons where in order.

[CadetProgramGuy]

I have tried very hard to ensure members of the unit that I am in are really squared away.  However I did have one member that I never told his ribbons where wrong.  He was a WWII vet that lost his arm in combat.  He wore two purple hearts.  I asked him about it once, and he told me he actually had 3 of them.  He said, I wear two of them and I guess you can figure out where the third one is, as he motioned to the side where his arm had been.  I know the rules but if he wore his ribbons that way I figured he had earned the right!  I sure was not going to tell him he was wrong and no one else did either.  I had to much respect for the man.  I did make sure all his CAP ribbons where in order.

Thank you sir!!  (salute, about face, walk away)

[sarflyer]

It's important that we all take care of each other and how we represent the organization.  So correcting them is very important.  But just as important is how you correct them. 

Observing a violation and then "telling" them it's wrong wouldn't be too tactful.  Maybe saying something like, "Sir, isn't your name badge supposed to be on the right side?"  It gives them a chance to answer.  I have seen uniform violations pointed out both ways.  Demeaning someone is no way to gain cooperation.

We have to work together! 

[jimmydeanno]

I have absolutely no problem telling people that their uniform is jacked up.

A few years ago at encampment there was a 2d Lt who was the grandmother of one of the cadets.  Every morning she'd come out and have things wrong like wearing her flight cap backwards, buttons off by one, tennis shoes, etc.  All week I was correcting her violations - and as the week went on she got increasingly impatient with my corrections.  I was tactful and never chewed her out for it.

At the "banquet" she showed up wearing her service coat and had her ribbon rack on upside down (there was a single ribbon on the bottom row and the complete rows above it).  So, I corrected her but got the reply, "well...I just can't seem to do anything right in your eyes, huh?"  Still not really sure how I could have handled those situations without gaining an enemy, but not really sure the onus is really on me.

But recently my focus on uniform violations have gone from "hey, your cutouts are crooked." to getting people to stop impersonating AF officers.

The TPU has brought out a whole new animal.  When it first rolled out (same encampment as above) the encampment deputy commander was wearing the AF style unifrom with the AF epaulets and the blue TPU nametag.  I pulled him aside and told him he couldn't wear it like that, and he tried to correct my correction.  He said, "I'll show you the change letter that says I can."  So he brings the letter and of course it says, "white aviator shirt."  But, alas he makes up some weird mis-interpretation and refuses to change it.  So...at that point, he just looks like an a$$ (yes, I subverted the language filter.), but what do I know.

More recently I've had to correct a few members for wearing AF stuff on their uniforms and it's driving me crazy.  Here's an example.  I am at an airshow working a recruiting booth for CAP.  A guy from "wing" shows up to help and he's wearing BDUs with the gortex parka.  On the outside of the parka he's got an AF Capt gortex parka tab.  Since it is a flightline, he's not wearing a hat.  The only indentifiable insignia on his uniform says he is a "real" captain.  When called out on it he says, "Well, Vanguard doesn't have the CAP ones yet, what do you want me to do?" - "Take it off."  He responded with, "there isn't any reason to get bent out of shape about it, I always take pride in my uniform and wear it properly, so when they have the right insignia, I'll get it."

As the day wore on, he took his parka off and wouldn't you know it...ranger tab, etc.  Go figure.

It just seems that these types of violations are happening more frequently.  But, like I said, I have no problems correcting people and I do it in a courteous and professional manner.  However, I just get blown off, probably because I'm a 26 year old punk kid that doesn't know what I'm talking about... (sarcasm).

[sarflyer]

Stick to your guns!  The regulations support you!  And you are in the majority.  We have standards that must be followed.   When you get an attitude from someone then you can follow the chain.  You will succeed. 

Also remember, we don't stay that 26 year old kid, do we?

"Proudly serving since 1976!"

[JoeTomasone]

My most-oft "suggestion" is to stow the BDU cover in the BDU trouser cargo pocket. It's shocking how many either don't know the reg (when asked) or just outright ignore it.   Still some cadets who missed the 1 March 2008 deadline for having the chevrons on both collars and ditching the CAP cutouts.

One thing I always do is make sure my uniform is correct BEFORE correcting others.

[O-Rex]

One of these days, some idiot wearing 1550's with blue epaulets and other illicit acoutrements is going to get arrested for impersonating a USAF Officer, and God knows what they will make us wear as punishment: berry boards redux & tu-tus.

Unfortunately, we will have deserved our fate.

We are our own biggest enemy: alot of our members just don't get it.

[SDF_Specialist]

When I first came back as a SM, I corrected a Lt. Col. because of a patch that was way off on the shoulder. He looked at the patch, looked at me, and said "thanks. I never noticed have crappy it looked." I think it all depends on how you approach the situation.

[Fifinella]

I am currently a squadron CC, and am therefore responsible for the appearance of all of the squadron's SMs.  Also, I have no problem correcting folks who show up to an event I am running.  

Otherwise, if it is someone over whom I have no authority, I try to discreetly mention it to the member, or if they outrank me, I mention it to someone who is in their chain-of-command.

Exception: If we are on a military installation or at a cadet event, I will mention it to the individual, regardless of rank, but I try to be very, very tactful.  

[Duke Dillio]

When I went to SLS, we had the standard uniform class.  The instructor, an ex-Navy guy I think, was wearing his blue jacket all day until the class.  When he started the class, he whipped off the jacket to expose his short sleeve blue shirt with ribbons and badges on.  He had placed his wing patch on the wrong shoulder on purpose.  So, he gets through about 10 minutes of the class and then asks us what is wrong with his uniform.  We all raised our hands and he picked someone who said that the patch was on the wrong side.  He said good job and started to talk again when I raised my hand.  Befuddled, he said "Yes?"  I then told him that he had asked us what was wrong with his uniform and then told him that his ribbons were on upside down (all military on the bottom with the top left being his membership ribbon, correct order of precedence, just an upside down 12 ribbon holder.)  He thanked me and that's when the other hands started going up.....

-  Wrong belt for blues (BDU style instead of nickel)
-  Wearing unshined tennis shoes instead of shined dress shoes
-  Wearing an unauthorized badge (surface warfare I think)
-  Pants too long, draped over tennis shoes
-  Not meeting grooming standards (goatee)
-  and on and on.....

So I had to laugh at him when he saw me later and asked if I was sure that his ribbons were on upside down....

[0]

When I've done it I do it politely because we're both volunteers.  I've even offered to help teach them the right way.  Once I even gave up my name plate off my blues shirt (because I had the Service Coat on) when I saw another member without a nameplate.  His hadn't come in yet. 

[DNall]

So I can choose all six options in this poll? nice.

I got no issue with correcting anyone at any time regardless of rank, unit, or position. If I do so or not has more to do with it being appropriate in the situation, or good use of my time/energy. Generally I'll say something, but it's not my priority.

[Chappie]

When I first joined CAP, everytime I would an event I would wear the UOD to a squadron meeting and have the Cadets inspect my uniform.

On another note, it is a common practice at the Pacific Region Chaplain Service Staff College to have a daily uniform inspection.  A great practice since we are usually conducting the event on an active AF base.

[0]

When I first joined CAP, everytime I would an event I would wear the UOD to a squadron meeting and have the Cadets inspect my uniform.

On another note, it is a common practice at the Pacific Region Chaplain Service Staff College to have a daily uniform inspection.  A great practice since we are usually conducting the event on an active AF base.

I wish we did more Senior Uniform Inspections.  I mean if we expect our Cadets to wear the uniform correctly, shouldn't we? 

[jimmydeanno]

Chappie, not meant as an insult, but I think you just brought up something.

This year I heard that on the first day of NSC they spent time going over uniforms because one of the attendees had an apple in their blues shirt pocket.

We have uniform inspections at command and executive level events, RSC, RCSC, NSC, etc.  This year at RSC we had a "uniform class."  It just struck me as odd.

Does anyone else think it absurd that we STILL need to actively inspect/go over proper wear of the uniform for our most "experienced" and "qualified" officers?

We put in all this effort on something as simple as putting on your clothes.  I mean, by the time you're going to RSC, NSC, etc you (on average) have 5 years or more in CAP.  We must be doing something wrong, when I put on my uniform I don't even think about where stuff goes, it's just habit - ya know?

Where do we go wrong...(rhetorical)

[0]

Chappie, not meant as an insult, but I think you just brought up something.

This year I heard that on the first day of NSC they spent time going over uniforms because one of the attendees had an apple in their blues shirt pocket.

We have uniform inspections at command and executive level events, RSC, RCSC, NSC, etc.  This year at RSC we had a "uniform class."  It just struck me as odd.

Does anyone else think it absurd that we STILL need to actively inspect/go over proper wear of the uniform for our most "experienced" and "qualified" officers?

We put in all this effort on something as simple as putting on your clothes.  I mean, by the time you're going to RSC, NSC, etc you (on average) have 5 years or more in CAP.  We must be doing something wrong, when I put on my uniform I don't even think about where stuff goes, it's just habit - ya know?

Where do we go wrong...(rhetorical)

I have to agree that somewhere along the lines something has happened.  We've all seen it before that someone wears the uniform improperly.  Let's not forget what we saw during the Fosset search.  Of all times not to get that wrong that was one of them.

The only time I could possibly see having a "uniform class" for our more senior officers is if there was a massive change in the regs.  That way they know the changes inside and out so they can bring it back to their people.

[JoeTomasone]

When I have someone who thinks they know the regs really well, I will ask them what specific infraction I am committing at the moment.  When they check me over and can't see it, I show them my cell phone and VHF radio on my belt.

Yep.  Look it up. 

Makes for a neat trivia question, though.

[Tubacap]

huh, didn't know you couldn't have both clipped in.

[0]

You can only have one clipped on to your left waistband.

[Chappie]

Chappie, not meant as an insult, but I think you just brought up something.

This year I heard that on the first day of NSC they spent time going over uniforms because one of the attendees had an apple in their blues shirt pocket.

We have uniform inspections at command and executive level events, RSC, RCSC, NSC, etc.  This year at RSC we had a "uniform class."  It just struck me as odd.

Does anyone else think it absurd that we STILL need to actively inspect/go over proper wear of the uniform for our most "experienced" and "qualified" officers?

We put in all this effort on something as simple as putting on your clothes.  I mean, by the time you're going to RSC, NSC, etc you (on average) have 5 years or more in CAP.  We must be doing something wrong, when I put on my uniform I don't even think about where stuff goes, it's just habit - ya know?

Where do we go wrong...(rhetorical)

That is true that by the time a person gets to RSC, CSRSC or NSC they should be in a habit of proper uniform wear...but I can cite "horror" stories of uniform wear of "seasoned" members who belong to squadrons that do not enforce proper uniform wear so the error of their ways are not dealt with at the grassroots level.  So they arrive at the event and need guidance.   

I have been on staff for the past two NSCs and the uniform matter is dealt with...not because of the apple in the pocket...but as part of the protocol class since we are guests at Maxwell AFB and the sessions are conducted at the SOC (Squadron Officers College) on the Academic Circle.  Since most of our CAP members (including myself) do not interface with active AF personnel on a day to day basis (and for 7 days NSC students are living in the same quarters as active duty, dining in the same dining rooms, and meeting them at the uniform store and other places on the base), students and staff are reminded of customs and courtesies, base rules, etc (including proper wear of uniform) on day one.  CAP members do stand out in that environment given our distinctive uniforms....but we don't want them to stand out for other reasons 

[Bluelakes 13]

At a national AF convention last year, where practically every state-side general was in attendance, there were 6 CAP members at their booth:

1. member had nametag on wrong side
2. another member had slept in their service coat (or looked like it)
3. another member should have stopped wearing their service coat 30 lbs ago

Note, one member was the other's CC!  I tried following member #1 around to tell them to switch the nametag over, but I could not get them alone.

Do you think the USAF noticed...

[0]

At a national AF convention last year, where practically every state-side general was in attendance, there were 6 CAP members at their booth:

1. member had nametag on wrong side
2. another member had slept in their service coat (or looked like it)
3. another member should have stopped wearing their service coat 30 lbs ago

Note, one member was the other's CC!  I tried following member #1 around to tell them to switch the nametag over, but I could not get them alone.

Do you think the USAF noticed...

What about members 4,5,6?  Were they at least correct? 

[Bluelakes 13]

Yes, #4 and #5 were Cols and looked fine.  #6 had the blazer combo and also looked fine.

What really annoyed me was that the CC's did not correct the uniform issues before manning the booth - at least the correctable ones.    

Oh well, I tried.

[0]

We can only do so much.  It's a shame we can't hang those with gross uniform violations by their toe nails.   

[Camas]

This year I heard that on the first day of NSC they spent time going over uniforms because one of the attendees had an apple in their blues shirt pocket. This year at RSC we had a "uniform class."  It just struck me as odd. Does anyone else think it absurd that we STILL need to actively inspect/go over proper wear of the uniform for our most "experienced" and "qualified" officers?

Yup, I was there with JimmyDeanno and a bunch of other topnotch members at the RSC recently held at Nellis AFB NV.  We endured the uniform class but then the seminar leader who conducted the class conceded that, while we were officers who should know better, they've had problems in the past with improper uniforms, lack of military courtesies (saluting AF senior officers) and that sort of thing. I'm often tempted to ask members who violate simple courtesies or proper uniform wear and ask them, "Who conducted you through your Level I?". But I gotta tell ya; most of the participants at the RSC looked pretty sharp for the most part.  Good bunch of folks!

[notaNCO forever]

We can only do so much.  It's a shame we can't hang those with gross uniform violations by their toe nails.   

Sounds like a good idea.

[Ned]

FWIW, I appreciate a gentle correction when I have made a uniform error.

I started out wearing shade 1505 khakis as a cadet then transitioned to shade 1550 shirts without epaulets, then to shade 1550 with epaulets.  Not to mention the way cool 1549 shirt when I wanted to look particularly cool.  And old and new service dress jackets.

I wore OD cotten sateen fatigues, the polyester green utilities, and now the BDUs and BBDUs.  (I also had the light blue smurf suit for a while).  And a green flight suit.

If you look in my closet, you can still find my CAP Guyaberra Shirt, mess dress, IACE short sleeve shirts, the blazer uniform, aviator shirt combination, and the TPU.  And a few golf shirts. 

I've got a couple of tackle boxes full of CAP uniform items -- all stuff that I have or could currently wear on my CAP uniforms.

(Also in my closet is about 23 years worth of Army uniforms as well -- big closet.)

So given my advanced age and the incredible variety of uniforms available to me (both past and present) in CAP, I would not be surprised if I managed to screw something up from time to time.

Please tell me about it -- you are doing me a favor.

Ned Lee
(Old Guy.)

[RiverAux]

I am more likely to correct silly problems that happen to everybody every now and again (ribbon popped off bar) or things related to uniform items that have to be taken off and on each time (ribbons on wrong side) while I am less likely to get involved (unless I'm in chain of command) on more serious ongoing problems. 

[JoeTomasone]

You can only have one clipped on to your left waistband.

Actually not - you can have one but it is not specified where.      The USAF specifies the left side but not the quantity.   39-1 says:

Pagers, Cellular Phone,
Two-way Radio

Clipped to waistband or purse, or carried in left hand. Only one is
authorized.

That also means you can't hold it in the right hand, which is bad for me since keying a portable with my thumb doesn't work so well.

[JohnKachenmeister]

It depends on the violation.  Very minor, esoteric violations of 39-1, and areas where there IS ambiguity in 39-1 I would probably overlook.  Serious violations I would correct without delay.  Most violations I would correct at the first discreet opportunity.

[IceNine]

Little Story that I'm oh so proud of.

WIWAC- C/CMSgt to be exact.  I attended the national board and annual conference.  about 30 minutes before the banquet the new national commander was so nervous that when he was "making up" his uniform he managed to put his newly minted stars on upside down.

I politely and respectfully pulled him aside and told him.  For my "courage" I landed a National Commander's coin. 

Moral of the story, don't be scared... be respectful

[JoeTomasone]

Little Story that I'm oh so proud of.

WIWAC- C/CMSgt to be exact.  I attended the national board and annual conference.  about 30 minutes before the banquet the new national commander was so nervous that when he was "making up" his uniform he managed to put his newly minted stars on upside down.

I politely and respectfully pulled him aside and told him.  For my "courage" I landed a National Commander's coin. 

Moral of the story, don't be scared... be respectful

That reminds me of the time WIWAC that we had a newly minted C/WO (Warrent Officer, which is what you got when you passed the Mitchell at the time).   For those who don't remember, the C/WO insignia was just like C/2nd. Lt except gold - one gold circle.   We were at some important function and he was so nervous that we were able to spin him up by telling him he had it on upside down. 

[jb512]

Little Story that I'm oh so proud of.

WIWAC- C/CMSgt to be exact.  I attended the national board and annual conference.  about 30 minutes before the banquet the new national commander was so nervous that when he was "making up" his uniform he managed to put his newly minted stars on upside down.

I politely and respectfully pulled him aside and told him.  For my "courage" I landed a National Commander's coin. 

Moral of the story, don't be scared... be respectful

That reminds me of the time WIWAC that we had a newly minted C/WO (Warrent Officer, which is what you got when you passed the Mitchell at the time).   For those who don't remember, the C/WO insignia was just like C/2nd. Lt except gold - one gold circle.   We were at some important function and he was so nervous that we were able to spin him up by telling him he had it on upside down. 

Cadet Warrant Officer?  I was a Cadet Flight Officer when I had my gold disk...

[BillB]

Cadet Warrent Officer was the original title of the grade when you got the Mitchell. It retained that name from the Senior Member grade system before it was changed to Flight Officer. the C/WO title was used for a very short period before changed to C/FO. Both C/WO and C/FO wore the gold pip.

[JoeTomasone]

Cadet Warrant Officer?  I was a Cadet Flight Officer when I had my gold disk...

Yep, as stated above.   This was in the mid-80's. 

[MIKE]

OT: I got C/2d Lt for my Mitchell. 

[Duke Dillio]

^OT again:  I got my Eaker certificate as a senior 1LT...

I think that the basic point is that it is inherent in our duty to correct those who fail to wear the uniform properly.  The way that you go about it will be different depending on the situation.  If you want to be a hard charger and yell at everyone who has even the slightest infraction, be my guest.  As a professional, I will take the person aside and talk to them about it.  This is a volunteer organization, not a boot camp.  While I do my best to set the standard, I don't feel the need to berate and belittle people.  If the cadets want to complain about me wearing an LSU, let them have at it.  I have other things to worry about besides putting a bunch of bling on an AF blue uniform.

VIVA LA POLO!!!!!

[jb512]

Cadet Warrent Officer was the original title of the grade when you got the Mitchell. It retained that name from the Senior Member grade system before it was changed to Flight Officer. the C/WO title was used for a very short period before changed to C/FO. Both C/WO and C/FO wore the gold pip.

You learn something new everyday.

[lordmonar]

Very situaitonal.

If the violator was a squadron memeber I would tell them to correct it.

If it was someone outside of the squadron who just goofed up (something not lined up right, out of place, upside down, etc) I would help them out.  If it was someone outside the squadron who was wearing somthing really wrong (say like a beret, orange t-shirt) I may ask them what the deal was.  But as soon as they say something like "My commander told me it was okay"....that's it.....end of conversation....because I am not in their chain....I cannot countermand a "My commander told me to".  I may bring it up my chain of command if it was really bad....but that is all I or anyone can do.

As bad as all the PAWG stuff is.....I can't do anything about it and it is not my place to do so.  NER/CC and NAT/CC would be the ones to correct that stuff.

[sarmed1]

"My commander told me it was okay"....

Thats the biggest reason I stopped making comments unless specifically asked by someone.  Cadets it doesnt matter, they salute and say yes sir, but seniors sort of live in that corportate (like Enron) mentality of "...its not my fault if my boss told me it was ok..."

mk

[0]

"I was just following orders."

It's been used to defend a lot of tragedies throughout history.

"My squadron commander said it was ok"

To me that should be enough if you're visiting that squadron or an activity that they are hosting.  Other wise what they've got approved by their squadron commander shouldn't be in effect.  Just like a Wing Policy is only in effect while you're in that Wing.  If you leave even though it's your home Wing you have to go by the policies of the Wing you're visiting. 

[Chappie]

"My commander told me it was okay"....

Thats the biggest reason I stopped making comments unless specifically asked by someone.  Cadets it doesnt matter, they salute and say yes sir, but seniors sort of live in that corportate (like Enron) mentality of "...its not my fault if my boss told me it was ok..."

mk

A few years ago a chaplain showed up to the Chaplain Service Region Staff College with his USAF-style blue shirt modified with a clerical collar, "because his wing chaplain approved it."  There was much discussion over the use of the term "tab"...which had been interpreted by said chaplain and wing chaplain as "clerical collar."   Talk about a stretch.    Well, the matter was handled by the CAP Chief of Chaplain Service and the then-Executive Director of CAP Chaplain Services who were in attendance.   But the said chaplain had to hear it from someone higher up (i.e. National -- not divine ) before he complied.

[0]

 But the said chaplain had to hear it from someone higher up (i.e. National -- not divine ) before he complied.

Is there a difference in our program?

[LtCol057]

Several years ago when I was a student at MER RSC, the instructors took turns every day making a deliberate error on their uniform.  The first student that notified the instructor of a uniform infraction got brownie points.   

Then a couple of years ago while I was Wing Personnel Officer, I went to a local squadron meeting because I had some questions about promotion paperwork that had been sent in.  While there, I noticed cadets in formation with SEVERAL uniform infractions.  Berets of 4 different colors (none had been to NBB), orange t-shirt under BDUs, a male cadet unshaven with ear rings in while in uniform, among others.  Naturally, the CC wasn't there.  I sent him a letter detailing what I observed, and a copy to his Group CC.  I was having mixed feelings about it, but when I talked to the Wing Chief of Staff, he said that I was representing the Wing CC, and also as Personnel Officer, it was my responsibility to make uniform corrections.   Now, doesn't matter who it is, I try tactfully to make corrections.  Even had to ask a former Wing Chaplain to remove his headgear inside the building.

[winterg]

I have no problem correcting a fellow member regardless of rank.  HOW you do it is what matters.  We're supposed to be professionals.  If the corector does so in a professional manner and the corectee is also a professional there should not be a problem.

[RiverAux]

I had forgotten about this thread.  In looking at the poll results, 55% of respondents would only correct someone if they were in the same unit (but even then, the relative grade and position of both people come into play quite a bit). 

[flyerthom]

We can only do so much.  It's a shame we can't hang those with gross uniform violations by their toe nails.   

Sounds like a good idea.

If they can't keep their uniforms right - what are their toes like? EWWWWW!

I'd probably point out something obvious like a frog that fell off but I am clueless about RM awards and badges. In that case if I had a question I'd ask someone who was RM and ask them what to do.

[BuckeyeDEJ]

You can only have one clipped on to your left waistband.

Actually not - you can have one but it is not specified where.      The USAF specifies the left side but not the quantity.   39-1 says:

Pagers, Cellular Phone,
Two-way Radio
Clipped to waistband or purse, or carried in left hand. Only one is
authorized.

That also means you can't hold it in the right hand, which is bad for me since keying a portable with my thumb doesn't work so well.

I think the Air Force also stipulates that to carry the device on the belt, it must be necessary to perform Air Force duty. I'd extrapolate that to CAP, whether or not such a clause is in CAPM 39-1. It's the Air Force's uniform, and though some things aren't in the 39-1, it doesn't mean we jack up the uniform just because a CAP regulation is remiss.

Besides that, it eliminates a lot of distractions among cadets (and some seniors) during CAP activities. The phones are either stowed in a BDU pocket or put away somewhere for the duration.

(Also: You don't carry it in the right hand because it's difficult to render proper military honors with a radio in your hand.)