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Mrodriguez
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Unit: NE-094

« on: January 25, 2017, 12:42:46 AM »

I recently turned 18 and would like to switch from being a cadet to a FO.
What is required to do so? Testing, applications, etc.
Thank you for any help and information.
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SM. RODRIGUEZ
DJ Light Chop
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 12:44:45 AM »

If you've already got your mitchell you shouldn't have any testing.  Just fingerprints, the CPPT, filling out the forms to transfer to senior.
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Mrodriguez
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 12:47:00 AM »

I haven't received my Mitchell yet. I recently joined the unit I am with and I am only a C/SSgt currently.
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Levi Lockling
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 01:13:46 AM »

Going SM as a C/SSgt is pretty much the same as a new SM joining. You'll have to go through Lvl I, CPPT, all the forms and fingerprints, as DJ mentioned above. You'll also have to hold SMWOG for the same amount of time as a new member, as compared with a Mitchell+ cadet transferring where they get 2ndLt, 1stLt, or Capt automatically.

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1stLt Levi H. Lockling
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Mrodriguez
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 01:17:59 AM »

Thank you for the quick response. How long would I be a SMWOG before being eligible to become a FO?
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Levi Lockling
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 01:18:09 AM »

Or in the case of FOs,  an automatic FO, TFO, or SFO.

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1stLt Levi H. Lockling
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DJ Light Chop
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2017, 01:18:42 AM »

Not going to talk you out of going senior, but do keep in mind that once you go you can't go back.  So if earning the mitchell or higher is something you would be interested in doing eventually, now's the time to do it.
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Levi Lockling
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2017, 01:19:39 AM »

6 months, if I recall correctly. Which may not seem like a long time, but TIG as FO only counts towards TIG for 2ndLt, as TIG for TFO only counts towards TIG for 1stLt,  etc. It's a weird setup, honestly.

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1stLt Levi H. Lockling
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Mrodriguez
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2017, 01:23:28 AM »

Thank you all again the information you've provided is very helpful.
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abdsp51
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2017, 03:19:35 AM »

He should be doing CPPT anyway since he turned 18 regardless if a cadet or senior.
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MSG Mac
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2017, 05:00:47 AM »

Check out CAPR 35-5 and 50-17.
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jhighman
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Unit: GLR-OH-085

« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2017, 08:53:47 AM »

Also check CAPR 39-2, 3.2.5 which specifically addresses the process for cadets transferring to active senior status.

As mentioned before, this is a one way trip so make sure that you have done as much of the cadet program as you wish or are able before starting Down this road. If you're 18 and don't have your orientation flights completed, you won't be able to complete the Mitchell award.

Do your due diligence and consider what you really want to accomplish before making a decision. You get your entire adult life to be a senior but only a fleeting moment to be a cadet
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jeders
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2017, 10:20:54 AM »

Do your due diligence and consider what you really want to accomplish before making a decision. You get your entire adult life to be a senior but only a fleeting moment to be a cadet

What he said, times 1000.

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If you're 18 and don't have your orientation flights completed, you won't be able to complete the Mitchell award.

Wait...what?! Completion of orientation flights has absolutely nothing to do with the Mitchell Award.
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Майор Хаткевич
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2017, 12:53:35 PM »


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If you're 18 and don't have your orientation flights completed, you won't be able to complete the Mitchell award.

Wait...what?! Completion of orientation flights has absolutely nothing to do with the Mitchell Award.


Yea, what's up with that?
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DJ Light Chop
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2017, 12:57:59 PM »

Maybe they're thinking encampment rather than O-Flight
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jhighman
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2017, 11:51:35 PM »

Sorry about that. I was victim of WIWAC thinking there. I confused the CAPP 52-7 prohibition of 18 or older from participating in orientation flights.
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Shawn W.
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2017, 01:59:55 AM »

Any particular reason you want to change over and not stay as a Cadet?

I've know a few members who have gone into the FO grades from being a cadet, only to get lost in the program because the squadrons they were in didn't know what to do with them.

My usual advice to any Cadet in a similiar situation, is to stay a cadet until you hit 21.

Just my humble opinion.

Good luck.
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Mitchell 1969
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2017, 03:56:19 AM »

If you switch now, you've got to complete some things and will be rank deficient for at least six months. If you stay as a cadet, you can boost your way closer to Mitchell in those same 6 months. Add encampment and you've got it in the bag. Then when you turn senior, you're a FO right away and will have a Mitchell. By then, you might even rethink it, as your role and responsibilities will be different and special activities might beckon.

Your call, of course. Thank you for thinking it through as you decide how best for you to serve.
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Jester
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2017, 09:52:38 AM »

Has anyone had an older cadet attend their first encampment as an 18+ year old?  Any issues with it?
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LATORRECA
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2017, 10:21:07 AM »

I think he wants to be a senior, because he maybe thinking, he can be in charge of the same cadet leaders. Think he is one of those guy doesn't want to accept orders from younger cadets.
  My advice is to stay as cadet and work hard to get your Mitchell.  You will related better with cadets, where as if you turn senior member you will be in a place were cadets won't approach you because your status and some seniors won't respect you because your lack of experience and matured.

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