I have been to 6 summer Hawks and as many winter ones.Have not seen any problems lately.
Quote from: CAPLTC on March 02, 2017, 09:12:59 PMI have been to 6 summer Hawks and as many winter ones.Have not seen any problems lately.Those problems typically arose once they got back to their "non-ranger" home units.
Quote from: Майор Хаткевич on March 03, 2017, 11:25:51 AMQuote from: CAPLTC on March 02, 2017, 09:12:59 PMI have been to 6 summer Hawks and as many winter ones.Have not seen any problems lately.Those problems typically arose once they got back to their "non-ranger" home units.Concur. That's when we tell them to take off their attitude (let alone the unauthorized tabs/hats/patches, which is the SURFACE issue).Look: good, useful training to standards is valuable no matter the source, right? Gaining an appreciation of the fundamentals, the advanced concepts, and the recurrency training for a range of specialties is not the issue - never was, as long as the training is to the task/standards/conditions that we've all standardized on. There is an invaluable benefit, in fact, in "cross breeding" for vitality and strength by introducing new ideas into stale organizations, and in shaking up the local status quos by exchanging new Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures (TTPS), to use the DoD terminology.The problems, as Major Hatkevitch points out, arise when the newly minted graduates come home with an attitude of braggadocio (of whatever program - it could be a DoD basic military training course, an "A" course, an officer commissioning route, all the way back down to a humble CAP special activity). When someone completes a one or two week course taught by SAR amateurs (and that would be ALL of our unpaid volunteer courses!!!!), and subsequently exhibits an attitude more consistent with a Tier 1 special ops soldier, then most of us call "BS" on that, and react negatively. In realist terms - the hats/badges are not the central issue (never were, to those with an ops focus). The attitude is, from an ORM standpoint. The reason is, when we regain a member who truly believes that they've gone from being a member of a whopping two years two months experience into a super SAR soldier - and then expects to be anointed and obeyed as the local expert, despite their true skill set (born of not just education and training, but also experience) then we've introduced a dangerous unstable element into our local SAR/DR team. At least until we can calm them down and re-center their attitude.My take:We need to continue to send our people to NESA, Hawk, Pathfinder, and the other schools, and support those events with $/staff.We need to continue to accept viewpoints from outside our own local area (again: Plato's allegory of the cave - look it up, cadets).We need to continue to set the expectation that capability results from all 3 factors: education, training, and experience, plus equipment.We need those activities to include a briefing to counter the hazardous "attitude" ORM effect post graduation.Finally, we need local units to work with their patch wearers to channel their energies/attitude constructively (and rein in the attitudes).Responsible DoD schools (e.g. HAVOC, Top Gun, Fighter Weps school) actually do include a discussion of the socio-psych impacts of returning to their home units as a patch wearer SME (subject matter expert), and how to avoid being a liability with an "attitude", and how to turn their expertise into being an asset. We should do the same, across the board.V/rSpam