You have to be over 18 to earn the wings - cadets under 18 only participate in ground-based training.CAPR 35-6 Page 2:"j. CAP Aircrew Rating: Be qualified as a CAP Mission Scanner (MS), Aerial DigitalImaging System Operator (ADIS), Airborne Photographer (AP), ARCHER Operator(ARCHOPR), ARCHER Trac Technician (ARCHTRK), Geospatial Information InteroperabilityExploitation Portable Operator (GIIEP), Surrogate Unmanned Aerial System Green Flag SensorOperator (GFSO), or Highbird Radio Operator (HRO)."Without sorties they won't be qualified as GIIEP, in fact, under 18 there's no way they could fly the requisite sorties.My understanding was you had to be a Mission Scanner before training for GIIEP, but I can't confirm that as there still is no GIIEP SQTRpublicly available.
Thanks Bob, kinda wanted the cadet to do the research. But they don't have to now since you did it for them.
That includes under 18s returning with GTM basic and senior badges, and two over 18 cadets wearing aircrew wings (MO). I've had to patiently explain to them that the decoration is separate from the rating, which is all that the schools can offer, and that they need to remove the decoration until my staff and I look up their quals and cut the official orders. Typically we try to brief them before they attend, and ask that they refrain until we can richly applaud them publicly and wing them on their return.
You are incorrect, Eclipse. YES, it is separate, in terms of the Ops Quals sub module. You need to go look at Ops Quals, Eclipse, and explore the "Ratings, Awards & Badges" sub module, which is not linked automatically to the qual modules. Subparagraphs A and D, quoted and boldfaced, do not reflect Ops Quals reality. One must separately enter/submit/approve the qual, then go into the separate sub module for the award. I'm pleased to accept that when I see it (but it isn't automatic, and it rarely happens).
Commanders absolutely have the authority (and are required to) review member decorations to ensure we're compliant. The paperwork must match the bling, or it comes off until we fix the paperwork or complete the training.
...they need to remove the decoration until my staff and I look up their quals and cut the official orders.
This has been discussed and settled before. Storm Chaser summarized it nicely. You simply don't understand how it works, apparently:http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=18774.0 and persist in letting your ego stand in the way of looking at the system.
Awards will automatically be recorded when requirements for qualifications or certifications are earned and approved in the National Headquarters Operations Qualifications or other CAP membership systems hosted by National Headquarters
My wing recently communicated to its members that ES badges should not be worn until the rating is approved in eServices, even if all of the individual SQTR tasks have been checked off.Quote from: CAPM 35-6 8(a)Awards will automatically be recorded when requirements for qualifications or certifications are earned and approved in the National Headquarters Operations Qualifications or other CAP membership systems hosted by National HeadquartersSeems clear enough to me. Completing all of the SQTR tasks goes to meeting the requirements, but there is no rating until it is approved.