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[Luis R. Ramos]

Unfortunately wearing the badges according to current regulations is not permanent.

Now what they say is wearing of badges for expired quals is at the option of the Wing commander. Have not heard any wing king saying no, but is not as permanent as some of us would want to...

[NIN]

Unfortunately wearing the badges according to current regulations is not permanent.

Now what they say is wearing of badges for expired quals is at the option of the Wing commander. Have not heard any wing king saying no, but is not as permanent as some of us would want to...

That's not precisely what the regulations says. That's not even the intent of the paragraph.

e. Once a rating, award, badge, or patch is earned in accordance with this regulation, the member may continue to wear it even if they no longer hold the associated qualifications unless directed by the wing, region, or national commander to remove it through another formal command action. 

IOW, the badges and ratings are permanent unless you did something so stupid as to get your rating pulled and the badge pulled and tell it has to be directed formally. 

The wing commander doesn't have the option to disallow permanent wear generally.

[Luis R. Ramos]

That is not how it is perceived. Some members have discussed this and come to the conclusion the wing commander does have the option to disallow permanent wear generally. Just like wearing the flag is an option allowed by the wing king. That is, until a few months anyway.

Why didn't you add the disclaimer of "with cause" at the end?

[PHall]

That is not how it is perceived. Some members have discussed this and come to the conclusion the wing commander does have the option to disallow permanent wear generally. Just like wearing the flag is an option allowed by the wing king. That is, until a few months anyway.

Why didn't you add the disclaimer of "with cause" at the end?

Uh, your Wing Commander has no authority at all with the flag. And the 39-1 is actually pretty clear on this. It was required and then became optional.
And since it's not on the list of uniform items the Wing Commander can authorize for wear in their wing, they have no say in the matter.

[NIN]

I'd like to know what regulations you're reading, Luis.

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[JC004]

Some members have discussed lots of things and got them wrong.

In years past, I have personally got the hands of more than one wing cc smacked by a region or national cc.

[Mitchell 1969]

Ground team badges, Air Crew Wings, IC badge... there are a lot of decorations for those that are very into ES...

None of those mentioned are decorations.

Just saying.

[Luis R. Ramos]

Nin,

You quoted it.

From OPERATIONS RATINGS, AWARDS AND BADGES, CAPR 35-6 Sect 8. e.

Once a rating, award, badge, or patch is earned in accordance with this regulation, the
member may continue to wear it even if they no longer hold the associated qualifications unless directed by the wing, region, or national commander to remove it through another formal command action.

Again, with this wording it means any commander can use it to ask a member to remove the badge at will. This is how it is perceived by some, and given the alleged communications by some in this board, it is allegedly happening.

[NIN]

Show me the formal command action. It'll be in writing. I'll wait.

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[Luis R. Ramos]

Show ME where I SAID it actually happened, or is happening!

PLEASE read carefully messages before replying.

I said "It can happen."

There is a BIG difference.

[SarDragon]

Enough of the measuring contest!