Good press, Bad image in the same 'zine - September/October FAA Safety Briefing

Started by Live2Learn, September 18, 2016, 01:01:02 AM

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Live2Learn

See:  http://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2016/media/SepOct2016.pdf page 5 (Hint: 'ungood' image on the right under heading "October: Compliance Philosophy") and very good article beginning at page 10.  Yin and Yang, I guess???

Eclipse

More like CAP needs to stop selling aircraft to
civilians with the livery still on it.

That's not a CAP plane on page 6.

"That Others May Zoom"

SarDragon

Once the corporate insignias have been removed, it's good to go. I'm guessing that the average GA pilot might not even recognize the paint job.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Thonawit

That is a CAP aircraft, You the CAP "Shield Logo" is on the door some some what obscured by the strut. Due to the angle of the photo you can't see the CAP on the wings. Civil Air Partol on the tail is obscured by the flaps and wing.

Anybody read the story starting on page 10?
Regularly contradicts, contradicted CAP Regulations...

Eclipse

Quote from: Thonawit on September 18, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
That is a CAP aircraft, You the CAP "Shield Logo" is on the door some some what obscured by the strut.

Maybe...



Quote from: Thonawit on September 18, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Anybody read the story starting on page 10?

Overall it's a decent article, I just wish there was a way to sell CAP which didn't rely so heavily on
NCSAs and similar that most cadets never participate in.   The idea members are going to be
ensconced in aviation, especially cadets, flies in the face of week-to-week reality.

Perhaps that is something that should be addressed by NHQ - why the vast majority of CAP
activities and requirements have nothing to do with aviation.

"That Others May Zoom"

Live2Learn

Quote from: Eclipse on September 18, 2016, 01:16:04 AM
More like CAP needs to stop selling aircraft to
civilians with the livery still on it.

That's not a CAP plane on page 6.

Wish it was so, but the CAP emblem is visible on the side of the aircraft (a bit blurry, but distinctly there).  Oh well...


Luis R. Ramos

To me what is blurry is the N number on the fuselage side, not the CAP logo on the door.
Squadron Safety Officer
Squadron Communication Officer
Squadron Emergency Services Officer

Ned

Quote from: Eclipse on September 18, 2016, 03:02:23 PM

Overall it's a decent article, I just wish there was a way to sell CAP which didn't rely so heavily on
NCSAs and similar that most cadets never participate in.   The idea members are going to be
ensconced in aviation, especially cadets, flies in the face of week-to-week reality.

Perhaps that is something that should be addressed by NHQ - why the vast majority of CAP
activities and requirements have nothing to do with aviation.

Bob, every single cadet gets "ensconced" in aviation, don't they?  It's a required part of the program.  Stuff that they have to study and get tested on.  Sure, some cadets would like to focus on the leadership, character, physical training and (non-aviation) emergency services.  But every single cadet receives a great deal of aviation training right at the local unit.  Cuz it's required.  As in "firmly established."  "Ensconced."

Even if they never attend one of the many aviation-related Regional or National special activities.  Like all the Flight Academies.  Or the Aircraft Maintenance and Manufacturing Activity.  Or NBB, SUPT, AF Space Command Orientation, UAV activity, or even the Aviation Business Academy.  Heck, even the old-fashioned summer encampment required of every cadet has aviation as a mandatory part of the curricula.

And even in arguably "non-aviation" subjects like character, DDR, or leadership we work hard to incorporate cross-overs to aviation.  DDR is all about being "Fit to Fly."  We spend a lot of time in character and leadership watching out for our wingmen.  We spend a lot of time studying the leadership of famous air power pioneers and especially the practical application of leadership to aviation organizations.

And we have worked hard to provide many additional aviation resources to local units.  The rocketry program, aviation-related STEM kits, and AEXs.  To name just a few.

We, like our USAF colleagues, offer courses and activities in things like Cyber and robotics - both with obvious aviation cross-overs.

I'm not a recruiting specialist or a PAO, so I can't speak as to why authors tend to focus on "gee-whiz" stuff like photogenic NCSAs for articles instead of the quiet work-a-day activities of a local unit.  But, like you, I know the local unit is where we have the greatest impact on our cadets and the communities we serve.  Thank goodness we do most of our aviation training there on Tuesday nights where it will reach the most troops.

Thank you for working with our cadets.


Ned Lee
National Cadet Program Manager


Al Sayre

Quote from: Eclipse on September 18, 2016, 01:16:04 AM
More like CAP needs to stop selling aircraft to
civilians with the livery still on it.

That's not a CAP plane on page 6.

CAP's not the only ones who had aircraft with that paint job, the State of MS had a couple of 172's with it, and you had to do a double take to see that it wasn't a CAP aircraft...
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

Maj Daniel Sauerwein

Looking at the image and the caption with it, I wonder if the article will deal with our Compliance Inspection system being a model that should be used by others in the industry. That said, I thought the article on CAP was quite good.
DANIEL SAUERWEIN, Maj, CAP
Squadron Commander
Grand Forks Composite Squadron
North Dakota Wing, Civil Air Patrol

sardak

Here is the undistorted view of the plane from the FAA Facebook page. The logo on the door and the lettering on the tail can be seen.

Mike


SarDragon

OK, so now we have a viewable pic to look at. I'll bite, what's wrong with either version?
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret