Cadet wear of Flight Suit

Started by CAPRAT123, August 09, 2015, 11:53:12 PM

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CAPRAT123

So, when I was a young Airman First Class my CC who graduated two years of Glider Academy would wear his flight suit around all the time. He wore it to basic meetings of the UOD was BDU, to any outside activities, and etc. My question is since I graduated Glider Academy can I wear the flight suit? If so, to which activities?
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What does CAPM 39-1, Chapter 8.1 say?

TheSkyHornet

CAPM 39-1
Quote8.1.1.1.
The USAF-style FDU and Corporate FDU (CFDU) are authorized functional
clothing for wear by individuals who perform aviation particular duties. Flight duty includes preparation,
preflight, in-flight, post-flight, and other flight related duties associated with aircraft operations
. The
FDU and CFDU are authorized for wear by personnel who have or previously had a CAP aeronautical
rating as defined by CAPR 35-6
, Aeronautical Ratings, Emergency Services Patch and Badges, and
Ground Team Badges, and/or have a current aircrew mission qualification (mission pilot, transport pilot,
observer, scanner, aerial photographer, etc.). Personnel who do not have a current aircrew mission
qualification or a current or prior aeronautical rating may be authorized wear of the FDU and CFDU on
days when actual flying is planned or anticipated. Wing commanders will determine when FDU and
CFDU wear is appropriate.

CAPR 35-6:
Quote
1. Aeronautical Ratings and Requirements. Requirements for CAP-member aeronautical ratings are:
a. CAP Cadet Pre-solo Rating: Be qualified in accordance with CAPR 60-1, CAP Flight Management.
b. CAP Solo Pilot Rating: Be qualified in accordance with CAPR 60-1.
..........
f. CAP Glider Pilot Rating.
Qualified CAP pilot in accordance with CAPR 60-1 and hold at least a Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA) glider private pilot certificate.

CAPR 60-1:
Quote
1-3. Definition of Terms. All terminology is in accordance with 14 CFR (Federal Air
Regulation) Parts 1 or 61 except as follows:
..........
j. CAP Solo Pilot – Student pilot qualified to solo CAP aircraft. Solo is limited to gliders
or single-engine land airplanes that are not complex, high performance (except C182 airplanes),
tailwheel, or ski/float equipped. Solo flight is considered to be flight instruction toward a private
pilot certificate under the supervision of a CAP Instructor Pilot.

3-7. Classification of CAP Pilots.
CAP pilots may operate a CAP aircraft according to the
classification of their experience and skills as follows:
..........
(5) A "CAP Cadet Pre-solo" is not an aeronautical rating, but an award given at a
CAP wing level or higher flight encampment/academy, to a CAP student pilot who successfully
performs a fight demonstrating to an onboard CAP certificated flight instructor (CFI), that he/she
has the ability to fly the aircraft without assistance from the onboard CAP CFI.

If you are a cadet undergoing training, qualified to solo, or received your private pilot glider certification, then you qualify to wear the Flight Duty Uniform (flight suit). It is to be worn for flight duties only, meaning you have to be planning or expecting to be handling aircraft, pre-flighting, operating, etc. Wing commanders may authorize wear of the uniform under other circumstances.

The local flying squadron commander near me authorizes wear of the FDU for Senior Members only if they choose on days when BDUs would be worn, even if the Seniors are not acting in a flight duty capacity. Cadets are not authorized to wear the FDU under any circumstance, unless flying if they are qualified to wear it. Otherwise, they wear BDUs when working with the aircraft on the ground.


lordmonar

Not quite but close

Either way check with you squadron commander foe when you can wear the flight suit.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Cadet Snuffy

I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool. 
future pilot

abdsp51

Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

Cadet Snuffy

I'm actually 19. I got qualified in AC this past May.
future pilot

Full time cadet

Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

Full time cadet

Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 16, 2015, 01:58:32 AM
I'm actually 19. I got qualified in AC this past May.

Hey!!! Wright Brothers and Aircrew? Nice. I am too, but just got promoted to tech a while ago. I don't really see Enlisted cadets do aircrew that much.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:49:46 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 16, 2015, 01:58:32 AM
I'm actually 19. I got qualified in AC this past May.

Hey!!! Wright Brothers and Aircrew? Nice. I am too, but just got promoted to tech a while ago. I don't really see Enlisted cadets do aircrew that much.


What's an enlisted cadet?

lordmonar

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

abdsp51

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

I am well aware of the requirements padawan,  hence the question being posed.  Never assume.

Cadet Snuffy

I'm aware I need to be 18 to be a part of an aircrew. Because I am on an aircrew.
future pilot

Cadet Snuffy

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

I'm aware because I'm on one lol I don't know why people are telling me that over and over when it's clear I already know
future pilot

abdsp51

Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 16, 2015, 04:41:01 AM
Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

I'm aware because I'm on one lol I don't know why people are telling me that over and over when it's clear I already know

Your sig rack and ID will bring it to question. 

Glenn Quagmire

Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 04:49:20 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 16, 2015, 04:41:01 AM
Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

I'm aware because I'm on one lol I don't know why people are telling me that over and over when it's clear I already know

Your sig rack and ID will bring it to question.
What's the big deal? What's makes it questionable? If it's possible for a cadet it's possible for a cadet good god shut up!

Glenn Quagmire

#16
don't start an argument you can't pull out of! Giggidy....... Point being this went from talking about flight suits to if sunffy over there really is a MS or not. STAY ON TOP.....IC. Topic. Yeah, stay on topic.

moist66


Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 04:49:20 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 16, 2015, 04:41:01 AM
Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

I'm aware because I'm on one lol I don't know why people are telling me that over and over when it's clear I already know

Your sig rack and ID will bring it to question.

Just because this cadet only a C/SSgt doesn't mean that they have less experience, or are inferior to any other cadet because of their CAP grade. As his ribbon rack shows, although promoting hasn't been a priority for him, he has attended three NCSAs, an  encampment, has been in CAP for at least two years, and has received a wing commander's commendation. Ribbon racks and insignia don't tell everything about a cadet.

Glenn Quagmire

Quote from: moist66 on October 16, 2015, 06:19:35 AM

Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 04:49:20 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 16, 2015, 04:41:01 AM
Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on October 16, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: Cadet Snuffy on October 15, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
I'm able to wear one because I have mission scanner qualification, but a new one cost over 200 bucks, so I wouldn't mess with it. But, if you really want one and want to wear it, ask your squadron commander or DCC. The DCC at my squadron authorized a cadet at mine to wear his on BDU nights. But again, unless you can find one for a good price, why spend 200 something bucks on one when you can just wear your BDUs which you already have? unless your in a plane, there's not really a reason to wear it to meetings besides it looks cool.

I hope you are 18.

You need to be 18 to train and be part of an aircrew.

I'm aware because I'm on one lol I don't know why people are telling me that over and over when it's clear I already know

Your sig rack and ID will bring it to question.

Just because this cadet only a C/SSgt doesn't mean that they have less experience, or are inferior to any other cadet because of their CAP grade. As his ribbon rack shows, although promoting hasn't been a priority for him, he has attended three NCSAs, an  encampment, has been in CAP for at least two years, and has received a wing commander's commendation. Ribbon racks and insignia don't tell everything about a cadet.
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