What do you wear? Specialty Track pins, that is...

[acarlson]

Hey all...

I have a senior rating PAO and a master rating PDO...   I can wear the Master PDO pin and the Senior PAO pin on each side of the white aviator shirt... (you know, 1/2" above the ribbons and 1/2" above the gray name plate...   

my question is on the Leadership ribbon...  what do you wear?   i.e., what is YOUR preference?  1 silver star (representing the master rating)  or 2 bronze stars (representing 2 senior ratings)... 

and you guys who are going to say "ribbons mean nothing to me"... need not reply, tankyouverymuch!    

[MIKE]

SECTION D 15. b. Leadership Award. Successfully complete technician rating in a training specialty.
(1) Bronze Star Attachment - Successfully complete senior rating in a training specialty.
(2) Silver Star Attachment - Successfully complete master rating in a training specialty. A maximum of three silver star attachments may be worn in recognition of each master rating earned.

Doesn't seem to authorize more than one bronze star.

[Trung Si Ma]

I have a senior rating PAO and a master rating PDO...   my question is on the Leadership ribbon...  what do you wear?   i.e., what is YOUR preference?  1 silver star (representing the master rating)  or 2 bronze stars (representing 2 senior ratings)... 

Looks like you get one silver and one bronze.

[Stonewall]

I have a senior rating PAO and a master rating PDO...   my question is on the Leadership ribbon...  what do you wear?   i.e., what is YOUR preference?  1 silver star (representing the master rating)  or 2 bronze stars (representing 2 senior ratings)... 

Looks like you get one silver and one bronze.

Yep, that's what I wear.

[ZigZag911]

3 silvers (that's all I'm alllowed, and all there's room for!) but I'm rated Maste in cadet programs, professional development, safety and personnel.....senior in comm & ES....technician in AE & PAO....hey, I'm a member over 35 years, you end up wearing multiple hats at squadron or group, you'd better learn something in all that time!

[JC004]

SECTION D 15. b. Leadership Award. Successfully complete technician rating in a training specialty.
(1) Bronze Star Attachment - Successfully complete senior rating in a training specialty.
(2) Silver Star Attachment - Successfully complete master rating in a training specialty. A maximum of three silver star attachments may be worn in recognition of each master rating earned.

Doesn't seem to authorize more than one bronze star.

Or by default, up to 4 bronze stars?     Doesn't specify, either way, does it?  So wear a couple of leadership ribbons and you're sure to get it right on at least one.  Personally, I am gonna move my leadership ribbon to the other side of the uniform cuz I'm running out of authorized height.     Then I'm gonna start wearing a sash.  I bet you the national commander wants one after I start wearing it.   :angel:

[Camas]

I can wear the Master PDO pin and the Senior PAO pin on each side of the white aviator shirt... (you know, 1/2" above the ribbons and 1/2" above the gray name plate...   

Nope, looks like you can only wear one specialty track badge on the aviator shirt - and on the left side.  Re: CAPM 39-1 Table 6-3 page 110.

[acarlson]

I can wear the Master PDO pin and the Senior PAO pin on each side of the white aviator shirt... (you know, 1/2" above the ribbons and 1/2" above the gray name plate...   

Nope, looks like you can only wear one specialty track badge on the aviator shirt - and on the left side.  Re: CAPM 39-1 Table 6-3 page 110.

Great discussion!   
however that wasn't my question... my question was the silver or bronze star on the leadership ribbon.

Here's a second question:
CAPM 39-3 page 6: 
b. Leadership Award. Successfully complete technician rating in a training specialty.
(1) Bronze Star Attachment - Successfully complete senior rating in a training specialty.
(2) Silver Star Attachment - Successfully complete master rating in a training specialty. A
maximum of three silver star attachments may be worn in recognition of each master rating earned

q:  can you combine 1 silver star and 1 bronze star on the Leadership ribbon?

[jimmydeanno]

Yes

[ColonelJack]

Not only can you combine bronze and silver stars on a Davis Leadership ribbon, you can actually wear more than one.  If you have ratings in four to six areas, you can wear two leadership ribbons with the proper stars on them.  (If you can't, somebody better tell GAWG CC Col. Lyle Letteer ... he wears 'em that way in his official photo!)

Jack

[carnold1836]

I know that this thread is regarding the devices worn on the Leadership ribbon.

That being said I have a question concerning the actual professional track rating badges. Since I currently don't wear wings of any sort, am I allowed two badges (ie. AE and CP)? And do those go on the pockets of the aviator shirt instead of above the ribbons?

Thanks for letting me take a little bit of a thread highjack here,

[davedove]

That being said I have a question concerning the actual professional track rating badges. Since I currently don't wear wings of any sort, am I allowed two badges (ie. AE and CP)?

For the Aviator shirt/grey slacks uniform:

From 39-1:
"Only the CAP aviation badge and one additional CAP badge are authorized on this uniform."

So you can wear one CAP badge, plus one set of wings.

And do those go on the pockets of the aviator shirt instead of above the ribbons?

From 39-1:
"CAP Specialty Badges: Worn centered on left breast pocket."

[jimmydeanno]

6-5. Description and Proper Placement on the Aviator Shirt with Epaulets. When wearing the aviator shirt the gray nameplate must also be worn. CAP ribbons, CAP aviation badge and one additional CAP badge may be worn (specialty insignia, specialty badge or command badge). No other badges or patches are authorized with this combination. See Chapter 4 for more information. Figure 6-16 illustrates the CAP aviation badges and Figure 6-17 illustrates the specialty insignia. Table 6-3 outlines the placement of these items.

So no, you may only wear an aviation badge and 1 other badge.  Since you don't have an aviation badge, you may only wear one badge on it.

[carnold1836]

Thank y'all, now I get to lambast some of the members that are wearing these incorrectly (after I make the needed changes to my uniform )

[Pylon]

Long/Short-Sleeved Blues -- just minature wings, no specialty badges or ribbons.

Service Dress -- Wings, ribbons, and Cadet Programs specialty badge.  Don't wear the other specialty badges, since I work primarily in CP; even though I may have other ratings it seems appropriate to wear the one for my primary duty assignment.    As for the leadership ribbon, I'm not going to go poking holes in it to add or change devices.  I plan on continuing to advance in my various specialty tracks... there's no sense in putting holes in ribbons and mini medal drapes when I only wear them a few times a year.  I'll wait until I get a few master ratings, and then update the leadership ribbon.

[DNall]

blues = mini wings & mini GBD badge
service coat = ribbons of course, full-size wings/GBD badge, CP badge on pocket. Got plenty other thigns I could wear on the right side, but don't like that look, also I choose the CP badge for two reasons: first of all it is my primary specialty & job, but secondly cause it & the AE badge look more like duty badges than the others.

Far as the rules on badge wear for the aviator... check that again real close. There are three categories of badges (excluding NB/NEC) all with slightly dif rules. And make sure you see the female rules also.

[acarlson]

And do those go on the pockets of the aviator shirt instead of above the ribbons?

From 39-1:
"CAP Specialty Badges: Worn centered on left breast pocket."

From 39-1:
and for women... women can optionally wear the badge 1/2 " above the ribbons...
...otherwise ... ouch!   but I know you guys wouldn't appreciate that!

[jimmydeanno]

Oops, forgot to answer the intital question...

My leadership ribbon has 2 silver and 1 bronze on it.  One thing to be careful of is the attachments.  I've seen people with 1 silver and 2 bronze put the silver in the middle because "it looks better."  But it's just like the ribbons, the higher precedence attachment goes to your right.

[Eclipse]

I have also seen Wing CC's wearing specialties about the name plate...

[Al Sayre]

Commanders can wear the "Commanders Badge" above the nameplate.