Miniature or Regular?

[Eclipse]

I think they told us in school that 1.8% of Air Force enlisted had the aircrew wings.

i.e. Loadmasters

[jb512]

I think they told us in school that 1.8% of Air Force enlisted had the aircrew wings.

i.e. Loadmasters

Not just loads, there are also: in-flight refueling specialists, flight engineers, airborne communications and electronics specialists, airborne battle management systems specialists, airborne mission systems specialists, flight attendants, aerial gunners and airborne cryptologic linguists.

I think I heard that the 1A5 got sucked up into the 1A3 AFSC or the other way around though, but I'm not sure.

[Angus]

While it's legal to wear regular size on a shirt and mini on the blues, you're best off with going with the traditional:  blue shirt takes a miniature while the service dress jacket takes the regular (full) size.

Indeed.

I definitely agree.   It makes it much easier.  I only wear small on the shirts.   

[SarDragon]

So for the Navy, two types of actual aviation-related wings(Enlisted Aviation Warfare Specialist/Naval Aircrew), with one Marine Corps (Combat Aircrew), Air Force has only one I can confirm (Enlisted Aircrew) with two I'm not sure about (Sensor Operator Badge/Unmanned Aircraft Systems Operator Badge), Army has Aircrew as well.

Then you could argue the parachutist badge (Basic version used by all services, and USN/USMC version as well as Army Freefall version) as well as the Army's Air Assault Badge, which is somewhat wing-ish.

I don't consider EAWS wings as real wings. There's absolutely no flying involved. They just mean that you've spent a lot of time reading a lot of stuff, and can regurgitate it at will. Hard to get, and worth advancement points, but not representative of any flying participation.

[DakRadz]

Very true, but aren't they required for Aviation-related fields? That's what I heard the latest standard was- and of course any enlisted person can attempt to earn them. IIRC and they are required for certain aviation fields (I'm guessing you would know, or have an inkling), then flying is somewhat involved. To a point. A dull point.

[SarDragon]

Almost all knowledge, very little in demonstrated skills, and no flying. Apparently now a required item for advancement to E-6 in aviation ratings. ESWS is the equivalent blackshoe qualification.

[DakRadz]

[Cranky] Well it looks like wings to me, and still aviation related, even if only in ze knowledge brain section. [/Cranky]
:angel:
I basically listed actual wing-incorporating badges which I could verify were aviation related, not necessarily flying related. If you look back, we were talking about wings. EAWS definitely has wings incorporated.

[BGNightfall]

Dak,
EAWS looks like wings, and it smells like wings, but you would have a hard time arguing that it is an "aeronautical specialty" (as detailed in CAPM 39-1, table 6-5).  It is more appropriately termed an occupational specialty badge.  As such, it is not authorized for wear on the CAP uniform.  Unless there's an ICL that I don't know about (possible) which allows wear of USN specialty pins.

Also, you failed to mention Naval Aviation Observer/Flight Meteorologist badge, and the various aviation-related medical badges (Flight Surgeon and Flight Nurse on the Navy side), which are more likely "aeronautical specialties". 

[SarDragon]

It is also not authorized for wear on the AF uniform, IAW AFI36-2903.

[DakRadz]

Dak,
EAWS looks like wings, and it smells like wings, but you would have a hard time arguing that it is an "aeronautical specialty" (as detailed in CAPM 39-1, table 6-5).  It is more appropriately termed an occupational specialty badge.  As such, it is not authorized for wear on the CAP uniform.  Unless there's an ICL that I don't know about (possible) which allows wear of USN specialty pins.

Also, you failed to mention Naval Aviation Observer/Flight Meteorologist badge, and the various aviation-related medical badges (Flight Surgeon and Flight Nurse on the Navy side), which are more likely "aeronautical specialties".

Conceded, but we were talking Enlisted wings. So while I concede that they aren't really wings, I wouldn't include anything requiring a Bachelor's Degree- i.e. Flight Surgeon/Nurse.
So exclude the EAWS and enlisted still have at least one chance per service (I always forget to look up the USCG- sorry MIKE/RiverAux) to earn "wings".

It is also not authorized for wear on the AF uniform, IAW AFI36-2903.

There you go, it's not a bit qualified. So moving on.

[Gunner C]

So for the Navy, two types of actual aviation-related wings(Enlisted Aviation Warfare Specialist/Naval Aircrew), with one Marine Corps (Combat Aircrew), Air Force has only one I can confirm (Enlisted Aircrew) with two I'm not sure about (Sensor Operator Badge/Unmanned Aircraft Systems Operator Badge), Army has Aircrew as well.

Then you could argue the parachutist badge (Basic version used by all services, and USN/USMC version as well as Army Freefall version) as well as the Army's Air Assault Badge, which is somewhat wing-ish.

Small correction.  If you're talking about the wings below, they're not army wings, they're a SOCOM award (Military Freefall Parachutist). 

[Hawk200]

Small correction.  If you're talking about the wings below, they're not army wings, they're a SOCOM award (Military Freefall Parachutist). 

Military Freefall badges were also awarded for completion of the Military Airlift Command High Glide Ratio Parachute Course, an Air Force school. The course was run IAW with Army training requirements. AFI 11-402 has an entry on it.

[vmstan]

This proclaimed per Act IV of the Pineda Chapter of CAP History, subsection 124, paragraph 37, line 2.

He said the name of he who shall not be named! Stone him!

[vmstan]

Getting back on topic. I have neither wings nor GT badge, although one more training mission and I should have that corrected. However, minis on the shirt (sans ribbons) and full size on the jacket is the route I'm taking. Honestly, I think the full size wings on the shirts are just a bit too much.