Is anyone going to the Wisconsin Wing Encampment?

[Raja1020]

Couple questions,
1.st Whose going to the Wisconsin Wing encampment

2. If you've been there before, what should I expect

3. are they really as much screaming and yelling as my technical sergeant said? (He said about the level of FMJ)

Bear with me if I sound annoyed I going just last winter

C/Amn Shawn Bhatti

[Raja1020]

going should be joined, sorry

[Майор Хаткевич]

1.st Whose going to the Wisconsin Wing encampment

I'm not, however I have been to 5 encampments in IL before.

2. If you've been there before, what should I expect

Expect to learn a lot about CAP, do a lot of drill, a lot of classes, and hopefully a lot of fun. You may end up doing firewatch for an hour or two during one of the nights.

3. are they really as much screaming and yelling as my technical sergeant said? (He said about the level of FMJ)

Your C/TSgt should be smacked FMJ Style. (Not really, but you get the point).

NO encampment should have anything close to FMJ, and any screaming that needs to be done should only be done because people are far away and need to hear something.

[a2capt]

While no encampment should, there probably is. However, if you know your stuff, you won't be the target of it. Assist others when able, in areas you're more familiar with, and you will help make the whole thing smoother for everyone, including that proverbial knotted up C/TSgt.

[Raja1020]

Thanks guys, I'm really excited about going..
IDk maybe the sarge was just trying to get us scared, he isnt going anyway

[Майор Хаткевич]

Thanks guys, I'm really excited about going..
IDk maybe the sarge was just trying to get us scared, he isnt going anyway

What's his reason? Has he gone before?

[Raja1020]

according to him his Instructor was screaming yelling and cussing
then hes like "You shouldn't go, this is your first year, you re gonna get over wealmed and they scream like FMJ"

[Майор Хаткевич]

according to him his Instructor was screaming yelling and cussing
then hes like "You shouldn't go, this is your first year, you re gonna get over wealmed and they scream like FMJ"

I've known a number of cadets who are from/went to WI for encampment. Never heard anything like that. His advice though, is bogus. Encampment in the first year is proven to motivate most cadets, not the other way around.

[Raja1020]

Problem is most of my Senior officers agree with him, I could understand if I was only Airman Basic, but I'm getting my second stripe tonight, and I'm taking chapter four of leadership as well, They DO say "Its your choice, were just trying to look out for you" But it makes me feel like if I'm disobeying them if i go, Which I plan on doing since I just sent in my Application

[a2capt]

Disobeying him?

If thats the message you are getting, they are not doing their job. They're supposed to encourage you to rise in the program, not scare you into not going or imply you're going against them.

That seems.. kind of odd.

[Eclipse]

Problem is most of my Senior officers agree with him, I could understand if I was only Airman Basic, but I'm getting my second stripe tonight, and I'm taking chapter four of leadership as well, They DO say "Its your choice, were just trying to look out for you" But it makes me feel like if I'm disobeying them if i go, Which I plan on doing since I just sent in my Application

I'd be willing to bet those same seniors have no idea what they are talking about, which sadly is all too common.

Get down out of your head on this and just go without expectations.  Cadets who attend an encampment their first year are
much more likely to stay in the program than those who don't.  Its worth the time and effort.

If you decide this year doesn't work, come see us in April in NE ILWG.

[Raja1020]

Im planning on going, so I guess theyll just have to deal with it. thanks guys for the advice

[Майор Хаткевич]

Problem is most of my Senior officers agree with him, I could understand if I was only Airman Basic, but I'm getting my second stripe tonight, and I'm taking chapter four of leadership as well, They DO say "Its your choice, were just trying to look out for you" But it makes me feel like if I'm disobeying them if i go, Which I plan on doing since I just sent in my Application

What Eclipse said. I've greatly enjoyed Spring Encampment at Great Lakes.

What does concern me is this: "but I'm getting my second stripe tonight, and I'm taking chapter four of leadership as well,"

Are you saying that you are promoting to C/A1C, but your unit is letting you test for C/TSgt?

[davidsinn]

Problem is most of my Senior officers agree with him, I could understand if I was only Airman Basic, but I'm getting my second stripe tonight, and I'm taking chapter four of leadership as well, They DO say "Its your choice, were just trying to look out for you" But it makes me feel like if I'm disobeying them if i go, Which I plan on doing since I just sent in my Application

What Eclipse said. I've greatly enjoyed Spring Encampment at Great Lakes.

What does concern me is this: "but I'm getting my second stripe tonight, and I'm taking chapter four of leadership as well,"

Are you saying that you are promoting to C/A1C, but your unit is letting you test for C/TSgt?

Looks like test banking to me. Sounds like that unit's leadership needs hit upside the head with a clue by four.

[Майор Хаткевич]

That's what I'm thinking, and hence my concern.

Nothing "wrong" (except for the regs) with test banking, as long as it doesn't lead to early pinning of grade (which it often does). I know, because that's the type of unit I was in when I started.

[Raja1020]

You have to keep a rank for two months, then you get promoted,

theres testing every other week

[Майор Хаткевич]

You have to keep a rank for two months, then you get promoted,

theres testing every other week

But are you testing ahead? You are a C/Amn, have you taken tests past the Arnold?

[Raja1020]

I dont know what level arnold is. I didnt knwo that this was iilegal, I hope if they get reported they dont figure out it was me lol
What rank is arnold? then I could tell you

[Майор Хаткевич]

I dont know what level arnold is. I didnt knwo that this was iilegal, I hope if they get reported they dont figure out it was me lol
What rank is arnold? then I could tell you

You aren't in any trouble, but from this point, lets take it to PM.

You should know, by the way, what grade Arnold corresponds to.

[a2capt]

Open up that blue zippered thing they sent you with books in it.

[Raja1020]

Im sorry!

[Майор Хаткевич]

Im sorry!

No problem, you're new, you make mistakes, you learn. We all have been there.

[Krapenhoeffer]

Okay, here goes.

I am too from the mystical, magical world of Wisconsin. Allow me to impart my strange wisdom upon you:

1. Expect an O-ride, possibly in a military aircraft. We're back at Volk Field CRTC this year, so who knows what Lt. Col. Trossen is cooking up.

2. In previous years, Encampment was held at Camp Ripley in Minnesota. And they had tank simulators. Don't know if we'll have those this year, but I hope that they can dig up some simulators from the 115th FW. Not to mention, the purpose of Volk Field is to train ANG personnel prior to deployment, so they have plenty of fun things on base.

3. From where I sit, the purpose of the Cadet Encampment is to create camaraderie among the entire Wing, and to inspire confidence in Cadets.

4. Remember, untold generations of cadets have survived the WIWG encampment, only to sign up for the next year at their first chance.

5. Oh, and remember your haircut. If your hair isn't within 39-1 standards, you will be sent home. From personal experience, I recommend a high and tight for encampment, as it's one less thing to have to worry about.

6. Read up on your chain of command all the way to Maj. Gen. Courter. Remember that the Wisconsin Wing Commander just changed. Read up on the 52 series regulations, specifically CAPR 52-16. You can find that here: http://capmembers.com/forms_publications__regulations/indexes_regulations_and_manuals.cfm

7. Have fun. If you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong.

[Eclipse]

5. Oh, and remember your haircut. If your hair isn't within 39-1 standards, you will be sent home. From personal experience, I recommend a high and tight for encampment, as it's one less thing to have to worry about.

Don't get a hockey puck on your head unless you want to look ridiculous.  Just make sure your hair is in regs.

[Krapenhoeffer]

The problem with hair and cadets is the subjective opinion of parents regarding hair. They always err on the side of too long, in my experience.

Besides, July is right after encampment, and that is the crazy time for WIWG. First, there is Operation Patriot, a week off, than AirVenture.

Contrary to the opinions of most Blue Berries I've met, WIWG is in charge of all CAP personnel during AirVenture, and WIWG personnel man all the airports, with the exception of Whitman Field, which is manned by Beret. I know of few cadets with GES who don't jump on the "Precautionary SAR."