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 on: Yesterday at 07:44:49 AM 
Started by Cebman21 - Last post by Nor'easter
I would love to see the return of AF Security Forces Familiarization course. If the AF could muster the support, perhaps elsewhere than Nellis, I think it would be a great addition to our NCSAs and cadet interest again.
there was a SF course?

Yes, held as a winter activity at Nellis AFB. I'm not sure how long it ran... 3 years I believe, maybe 4. Here's a recruiting poster from the last year it was held.

*Actually, it appears that it never received full NCSA accreditation. It was just a Nevada-wing run activity, open nationally for application through eServices.

 22 
 on: Yesterday at 03:07:19 AM 
Started by wings15 - Last post by SarDragon
OK, here are good links for the complete Drummond Island: Declassified, thanks to The Wayback Machine.

From the bottom of every page in the saga:

Editor's note: The activities described in this series happened during a different period in the history of CAP and the nation. With this in mind, please use good judgment while reading the accounts presented here: consider their historical context and the onus of current Civil Air Patrol regulations. CadetStuff neither condones nor condemns the activities of the 77th Ranger Support Unit; we are merely reporting them in the context of what we can learn from past events and experiences.


Declassified:  Drummond Island

The Introduction 

Death March Pt 1 

Death March Pt 2

  The Mess

The Consummate Squad Leader   

The Tea   

The Death Notice   

The Interview   

The Raging Queen   

The Rocks   

The Pig   

The Rebellion   

The Leper Colony   

The Church   

The King   

The Taj Ma-hole   

The Hair   

The Sleeves   

The Shelter   

The Council of War   

The Death March Pt 3   

The Oatmeal War   

 23 
 on: Yesterday at 02:41:27 AM 
Started by Mrodriguez - Last post by Mitchell 1969
I firmly believe that a 21-year old former C/Col is in no position, whether through practical experience or emotional maturity, to become a Squadron Commander as a senior member.

Neither is a SMWOG with 2 weeks of CAP experience, but it still happens.


I'd argue life experience (and CAP SM experience) is low, but on the maturity side? If someone makes a 21 year old a Squadron Commander, then they are probably not your typical 21 year old.

I was a Squadron Commander at 20, turning 21 about 6 weeks later. But, I'd been cadet commander of two squadrons, Chairman of a large and active Wing CAC, had served on Wing Staff as a CPO and had been a Group CPO. In other words, while still a cadet officer, i was doing a lot of Warrant Officer-like things that my fellow cadets were not. (I went from C/LtCol to WO a few days before I took over the Squadron).

The Squadron had some particular needs and my skill set matched. The Group Commander asked me to take over and I did. I had to do an almost total house cleaning of seniors immediately but recruited done great replacements.

I left it a going concern and it's still there, 42 years later (although I haven't been back in at least 35 years).

 24 
 on: Yesterday at 02:38:14 AM 
Started by Levi Lockling - Last post by Levi Lockling
Forgot to mention that I also have TFO shoulder boards for sale, though the "TFO" part can be removed and swapped for any other FO rank. Rank and shoulder board normally go for $40ish... Make me an offer.

 25 
 on: Yesterday at 02:36:12 AM 
Started by Levi Lockling - Last post by Levi Lockling
Hello, all! I seem to be in possession of two mess dress jackets and a set of mess dress trousers. The jackets are 46R and 42L, and the pants, while not labeled, appear to be 36-38ish inch waist, and are probably about that long on the inseam. The jackets come with the silver AF braid and shoulder board loops, which will need to be swapped for blue(For officers) and removed entirely for NCOs. Any reasonable offers for what you need will be considered, but ultimately will go to the highest bidder... May the odds be ever in your favor.  >:D

 26 
 on: March 26, 2017, 11:46:38 PM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by PHall
You want to really break a kid?  Punch his ticket through a diamond and then put him into a position of authority over other cadets who actually did the work.

On the other hand, this is a great life lesson about the harsh realities of adult life.

The USAF doesn't fund us to pencil whip cadets through to Mitchell. Attaining that milestone is supposed to mean something, which is why enlisted get an extra stripe when they graduate from BMT in the Army and Air Force.

Last I knew having your Mitchell granted E3 upon enlistment into the AF not at the end of BMT.

You get paid as an E3, but you don't wear it until Graduation.

Hence your an E3 even in BMT...

At least in the way that counts most, on payday!!!

 27 
 on: March 26, 2017, 11:16:53 PM 
Started by Cebman21 - Last post by Cebman21
I would love to see the return of AF Security Forces Familiarization course. If the AF could muster the support, perhaps elsewhere than Nellis, I think it would be a great addition to our NCSAs and cadet interest again.
there was a SF course?

 28 
 on: March 26, 2017, 11:14:46 PM 
Started by Firechief160 - Last post by etodd

Nothing wrong with those, per-se, but those are still mission sorties, not hamburger runs, .......

In the interest of health-rest-nourishment-etc., when doing a cross country, self-funded C12, proficiency flight, I usually make it a point of a lunch and bathroom stop at some point. If I happen to have a MO and/or MS with me, they usually appreciate it as well. :)

 29 
 on: March 26, 2017, 11:09:23 PM 
Started by Castle Bravo - Last post by BuckeyeDEJ
Not the Army's jump wings at all.

 30 
 on: March 26, 2017, 11:07:24 PM 
Started by futura - Last post by BuckeyeDEJ
I joined as a cadet in 1984, and my time in CAP has been uninterrupted. My CAPID begins with 113.

You're in the current number group, which transitioned from SSANs.

Indeed. But I didn't have an SSN when I joined CAP, so I was issued CAPSN 000914475 in 1984. That I would remember that number seems amazing.

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