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 on: Today at 04:34:34 PM 
Started by vovbelle - Last post by vovbelle
that was my opinion too.  the commander of our unit says that he has tried to find ways to work around it but keeps hitting road blacks. i sent a message  to the encampment fb page...that have seen it but not replied yet.  i will let you know what i hear.

 12 
 on: Today at 04:26:45 PM 
Started by MSG Mac - Last post by kwe1009
I have only been to 1 national conference and it was frankly a complete waste.  Most of the seminars that I sat in on quickly turned into gripe sessions with the NHQ people that were running the seminar.  Here is how most of it went:

CAP Member: "Why are we doing X when Y would be cheaper, easier, and would probably generate outside interest?"
NHQ staffer: "We spent a lot of time researching X and are committed to it.  It is a great plan."
CAP Member: "What about Y?"
NHQ staffer: "We didn't consider that because reasons."

rinse and repeat

I haven't seen Wing or Region conferences be much better, especially when you factor in the cost.  Technology has overcome the conference model and we all just need to embrace it.  A conference can easily be replace with WebEx or similar technology for a lot less money.  I'm still not sure why we are not doing RSC and NSC as web conferences either.

 13 
 on: Today at 03:59:12 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by Luis R. Ramos
That does not look to me to be ANSI-2 or ANSI-3 compatible.

If you compare ANSI compatible and non-ANSI compatible, you can see the difference.

The orange on an ANSI-compatible is more orange-looking. Under a strong light, the ANSI orange shines by itself over the non-ANSI orange. In addition, there is a minimum number and length of reflective straps. Just one strap on each side over the pocket and over the top, one inch long is not going to cut it.

I have not seen the lime green vests, but I gather the lime green is shinier on the ANSI one than on a non-ANSI one.

By law, an ANSI compliant vest will usually have a large statement sewed on the inside of the garment stating how it is ANSI compliant.

I also looked at the company that makes it. I may be mistaken, but if the item is ANSI compliant, the company would want that be visible. Their features would say in big, bold letters "ANSI 2 COMPLIANT." Or ANSI 3 compliant. The fact the company does not show that is a flag against it being compliant, at least to me.


 14 
 on: Today at 03:42:19 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by Jester
I have the wildland and I like it. The hydration carrier is discontinued as far as I can tell.

I wear a matching orange backpack for full visibility and haven't had an issue yet.

 15 
 on: Today at 03:41:06 PM 
Started by Eclipse - Last post by NIN
and sign in BOTH places

 16 
 on: Today at 03:34:39 PM 
Started by vovbelle - Last post by Jester
There is absolutely no reason you can't do the entire thing in a polo and gray slacks. If the encampment is requiring anything else with the possible exception of an aviator shirt, they're unnecessarily standing in their own way and have nobody to blame for their manning issues.

Encampment costs SMs more than enough already. There's no reason to add more on.

Recommend seeking clarification from the encampment commander.

 17 
 on: Today at 03:30:04 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by wacapgh
CAPR 62-1:

7.a.(5).
b. Safety vests are approved for wear over the outermost garment of AF-style uniform or corporate uniform and must be ANSI compliant as defined in paragraph 7d below.

c. Safety apparel is approved for wear as the outermost garment over the corporate uniform only and must meet ANSI Class 2 or 3 standards as noted on the ANSI classification tag which must be affixed to the garment. Examples of safety apparel are coats, jackets, rainwear and may include orange or lime green reflective pants in conjunction with upper-body wear.

d. ANSI and non-ANSI compliance standards are as follows:
 (1) ANSI compliant – All Safety Vests or Safety Apparel worn by CAP members must meet the American National Standards Institute, Inc (ANSI) Class 2 or Class 3 requirements. To ensure compliance with federal law, CAP members must comply with this anytime duties exposed them to public vehicular traffic such as directing traffic, investigating crashes, handling lane closures, obstructed roadways and disasters within the vehicle traffic lanes.

 (2) Non-ANSI compliant – Safety vests and safety apparel that does not meet ANSI class 2 or 3 visibility and reflectivity standards are not authorized. CAP’s policy on safety vests and apparel required that all members, by October 1, 2012, meet ANSI Class 2 or 3 visibility and reflectivity standards as stated in 7 (d) 1, above.

 18 
 on: Today at 03:26:33 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by Spaceman3750
They have the Wildland available in orange for $80.  From what I read it seemed like the same vest with a saw cover and a tool bar carrier, but I may be mistaken.  If that's the case, neither of those things are applicable with CAP. 

The big problem I see with the safety vests is that people then cover them with back packs  or other vests which defeats the purpose.  So I was thinking this would serve both purposes.

There are people who would tell you that safety vests should be worn over backpacks because of the "outermost layer" rule.

I'll take one ANSI II tent, please.

 19 
 on: Today at 03:24:52 PM 
Started by MSG Mac - Last post by Alaric
$ 190.00 - Event
$ 462.33 - Hotel
$ 380.00 - Airfare
$ 100.00 - Meals & Etc

$1,132.33 to attend a three day CAP conference? Too rich for my blood, especially with nothing about what will be happening at the conference being published.

It's hard to create value for these conferences. Anything being announced at the conference gets posted online. Training made available at the conference is also available at the region and wing levels. Obviously it's great to make new friends and meet old pals. For some, hearing something before the rest of the membership or shaking hands with important people holds value to them. It just seems to the majority of the membership, giving up vacation days or simply going unpaid is too much to ask for what the member gets in return for attending the conference.

Being in Texas will help. It's a large wing with plenty of locals who can easily attend. I just wonder how much longer non-profits can afford to host these big national conventions.

As long as the people that are required to go (Nat CC, Region CCs Wing CCs) are not reaching into their own pockets to pay for it, they will continue to have it and continue to perpetrate the myth that it is an opportunity for the rank and file members to get training and network.  If I were king for a day there would be no reimbursed travel for conferences, Fortune 500 companies have been using telecons and webinars for years, lets try to be good stewards of taxpayer money eh. 

 20 
 on: Today at 03:24:10 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by taylor914
They have the Wildland available in orange for $80.  From what I read it seemed like the same vest with a saw cover and a tool bar carrier, but I may be mistaken.  If that's the case, neither of those things are applicable with CAP. 

The big problem I see with the safety vests is that people then cover them with back packs  or other vests which defeats the purpose.  So I was thinking this would serve both purposes. 

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