Now here is a intresting question that was recently brought up at the 2011 GAWG encampment. Some of the cadets and seniors were wearing the unit service ribbon. Now they sade that since there unit earned it they should be able to wear it. Even thought they werent in the unit when it was earned. No just my logic would be that you wear something like that if you were in the unit when it was earned. Thats like saying my squadron was awarded the unit service in 1951 but i didnt join CAP till 2001 but i still wear it. Maybe thats just my old army retired logic :). Any opinons or quotes from regs?
Assuming you mean the Unit Citation Award:
Quote from: CAPR 39-3j. Unit Citation Award. Awarded for exceptionally meritorious service or exceptionally outstanding achievement which clearly sets the unit above and apart from similar units. Members are awarded the Unit Citation ribbon if they were members of the unit during the time period for which the citation is awarded.
(1) Recognition of meritorious service should cover a period of at least 12 months in order to permit the recommending authority to consider simultaneously units with related missions, compare all the units within their wing or region, and select the truly outstanding unit meriting the award.
(2) Recognition of outstanding achievements intended to recognize a single specific act or notable accomplishment that is separate and distinct from the normal mission or regular function of the unit. The period of an outstanding achievement is normally short and characterized by definite beginning and ending dates.
Emphasis mine.
Are you talking about the "Unit Citation Award?" The plain green ribbon?
If so, the current regulation says that you must be a member of the unit when it was awarded to wear it. Otherwise, you don't wear one.
This is what happens when ex army guys don't read the regulation.
AD Army wears all the unit citations that their unit has ever earned.
The AF....and CAP via 39-1 don't.
Only those who were members when the unit earned the awaard get to wear it.
Quote from: colkemp on July 06, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
Now here is a intresting question that was recently brought up at the 2011 GAWG encampment. Some of the cadets and seniors were wearing the unit service ribbon. Now they sade that since there unit earned it they should be able to wear it. Even thought they werent in the unit when it was earned. No just my logic would be that you wear something like that if you were in the unit when it was earned. Thats like saying my squadron was awarded the unit service in 1951 but i didnt join CAP till 2001 but i still wear it. Maybe thats just my old army retired logic :). Any opinons or quotes from regs?
Woo! I could wear a green ribbon with three silver attatchments! :o NOT... yeah, as answered above you can only wear it if you were a member of that unit at the time. Good question though, I see that all the time and your the first person I've seen ask about it, thanks for checking it! :D
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 06, 2011, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: colkemp on July 06, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
Now here is a intresting question that was recently brought up at the 2011 GAWG encampment. Some of the cadets and seniors were wearing the unit service ribbon. Now they sade that since there unit earned it they should be able to wear it. Even thought they werent in the unit when it was earned. No just my logic would be that you wear something like that if you were in the unit when it was earned. Thats like saying my squadron was awarded the unit service in 1951 but i didnt join CAP till 2001 but i still wear it. Maybe thats just my old army retired logic :). Any opinons or quotes from regs?
Woo! I could wear a green ribbon with three silver attatchments! :o NOT... yeah, as answered above you can only wear it if you were a member of that unit at the time. Good question though, I see that all the time and your the first person I've seen ask about it, thanks for checking it! :D
The first person?
That question comes up about once a month here.
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? Seems like it's been a while.
Maybe I've just been ignoring all of that particular question lately.
Twice a quarter?
Quote from: Hawk200 on July 07, 2011, 02:25:52 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? Seems like it's been a while.
Maybe I've just been ignoring all of that particular question lately.
Dont bother Hawk200, Eclipse is just the local know it all. Your probably right ;)
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 06, 2011, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: colkemp on July 06, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
Now here is a intresting question that was recently brought up at the 2011 GAWG encampment. Some of the cadets and seniors were wearing the unit service ribbon. Now they sade that since there unit earned it they should be able to wear it. Even thought they werent in the unit when it was earned. No just my logic would be that you wear something like that if you were in the unit when it was earned. Thats like saying my squadron was awarded the unit service in 1951 but i didnt join CAP till 2001 but i still wear it. Maybe thats just my old army retired logic :). Any opinons or quotes from regs?
Woo! I could wear a green ribbon with three silver attatchments! :o NOT... yeah, as answered above you can only wear it if you were a member of that unit at the time. Good question though, I see that all the time and your the first person I've seen ask about it, thanks for checking it! :D
The first person?
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? You just had to didnt you... ::)
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on July 07, 2011, 02:25:52 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? Seems like it's been a while.
Maybe I've just been ignoring all of that particular question lately.
Dont bother Hawk200, Eclipse is just the local know it all. Your probably right ;)
And you are acting like a child. It's getting old.
Quote from: davidsinn on July 07, 2011, 03:33:45 AM
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on July 07, 2011, 02:25:52 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? Seems like it's been a while.
Maybe I've just been ignoring all of that particular question lately.
Dont bother Hawk200, Eclipse is just the local know it all. Your probably right ;)
And you are acting like a child. It's getting old.
I'm sorry, its an internet forum, take it up with Skynet, maybe they can kill me, for you and Eclipse. ::)
You have to consider that Eclipse DOES have the coveted Too Much Free Time Award.
My unit got it the year before I moved here and joined...as Maxwell Smart used to say "missed it by that much."
Quote from: CyBorg on July 07, 2011, 08:24:42 AM
My unit got it the year before I moved here and joined...as Maxwell Smart used to say "missed it by that much."
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Would you believe a boy scout with a bb gun? :P
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 06:20:09 AM
I'm sorry, its an internet forum, take it up with Skynet, maybe they can kill me, for you and Eclipse. ::)
I've seen people, mainly cadets, get booted from this forum for less of a 'tude.
As a C/Capt+ maybe you should carry yourself in a more respectful fashion? I think that was a lesson in chapter one of the leadership book. Perhaps you learned on the new books, I'm not so up to date on those.
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on July 07, 2011, 03:33:45 AM
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on July 07, 2011, 02:25:52 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? Seems like it's been a while.
Maybe I've just been ignoring all of that particular question lately.
Dont bother Hawk200, Eclipse is just the local know it all. Your probably right ;)
And you are acting like a child. It's getting old.
I'm sorry, its an internet forum, take it up with Skynet, maybe they can kill me, for you and Eclipse. ::)
You're cadet officer?
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 08, 2011, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 06:20:09 AM
I'm sorry, its an internet forum, take it up with Skynet, maybe they can kill me, for you and Eclipse. ::)
I've seen people, mainly cadets, get booted from this forum for less of a 'tude.
As a C/Capt+ maybe you should carry yourself in a more respectful fashion? I think that was a lesson in chapter one of the leadership book. Perhaps you learned on the new books, I'm not so up to date on those.
internet 'tude is like the 4th deminsion... it doesnt exist, or does it, not really but kinda'... who knows...
Quote from: JThemann on July 08, 2011, 01:54:16 AM
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on July 07, 2011, 03:33:45 AM
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 07, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on July 07, 2011, 02:25:52 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 06, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
That question comes up about once a month here.
Really? Seems like it's been a while.
Maybe I've just been ignoring all of that particular question lately.
Dont bother Hawk200, Eclipse is just the local know it all. Your probably right ;)
And you are acting like a child. It's getting old.
I'm sorry, its an internet forum, take it up with Skynet, maybe they can kill me, for you and Eclipse. ::)
You're cadet officer?
Simple question... simple answer: Yes and [Filter Subversion] proud! ;D
Anything else I can help you with?
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 08, 2011, 01:40:05 AMPerhaps you learned on the new books, I'm not so up to date on those.
Now now.. lets not be hasty.. they worked hard on L2L...
Quote from: Zen Master Charlie on July 08, 2011, 02:06:09 AM
internet 'tude is like the 4th deminsion... it doesnt exist, or does it, not really but kinda'... who knows...
Well Cadet....former regional CAC member.....i.e. it is only going to take us about 2 second to find out how you are, what unit you belong to and when your next promotion is going to be.....let me explain that internet 'tude does in fact exists.....and it does infact reflect up on CAP, You and your prospects of getting promoted.
This is not a threat....I don't really care......but if you think that you can say or do anything you like on this or any other forum...because it is the internet, or free speech, or what ever.....you are sadly mistaken.
This is your warning. 8)
What Lordmonar said.
As a C/CMSgt, I was reprimanded for conduct on Cadet Stuff. I learned real quick after that. (For the most part).
I would hate to see you get booted for your behavior, but quite honestly, you've earned it in my eyes.
Edit: His account says "Suspended". What a shame.
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 06, 2011, 08:10:34 PM
Are you talking about the "Unit Citation Award?" The plain green ribbon?
If so, the current regulation says that you must be a member of the unit when it was awarded to wear it. Otherwise, you don't wear one.
I hate to drag this back on topic, but IF you are a member of a unit which is awarded the UC at the time that it is awarded, you are authorized to wear it forever.
For a while, if you were member of a unit which had been awarded the UC before you got there, you could wear it while you were a member of that unit.
Thus, I used to wear the UC with two devices, having been in two squadrons that earned it while I was there, then while a member of a third which had won it years before.
Quote from: Buzz on July 17, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 06, 2011, 08:10:34 PM
Are you talking about the "Unit Citation Award?" The plain green ribbon?
If so, the current regulation says that you must be a member of the unit when it was awarded to wear it. Otherwise, you don't wear one.
I hate to drag this back on topic, but IF you are a member of a unit which is awarded the UC at the time that it is awarded, you are authorized to wear it forever.
For a while, if you were member of a unit which had been awarded the UC before you got there, you could wear it while you were a member of that unit.
Thus, I used to wear the UC with two devices, having been in two squadrons that earned it while I was there, then while a member of a third which had won it years before.
While it is true....BITD.....you could wear any and all unit awards that your unit won......it has not been the case for the 20+ years. In CAP or the USAF.