A public apology

[DHollywood]

PS:  For those who may question:  I was in the same RIP class as folks like John Collett.  SSG Gibson (one of the twins/purple heart from Panama),
SGT Tow,
SSG Bergman. 

Collette, gained fame from BHD

Gibson is a CSM, In Iraq, had his mess SGT open the chow hall and feed my 12 man team at 0100 even though we were not in the unit. did it just because we were Ranger buddies

Tow is a shooter

Bergman, AKA Birdog is a Great Ranger Buddy


Sargrunt, DID YOU GRADUATE AIRBORNE?

BTW, you didn't come forth, I drove you out into the spotlight. I called it from my first post. It was only a matter of time before my checks of your record came back with the truth, leaving you no options.

Thank you for shedding that light here Ranger.

[Duke Dillio]

I didn't make it through Airborne School.  I was originally assigned to D Co., 1/507th PIR and was then sent to HHC.  I did some odd details while I was there including "acting" in the "I am the Infantry" presentation to OBC grads and what not.  (They put me on a moveable platform dressed as a Desert Storm guy with blacklight paint on it and during the "performance", they spun the platform around.)  There were four others with me, if I remember correctly.  I also did some odd jobs at the Rigger shack down by the airfield (sweeping and stuff).  I contacted my branch manager to request assignment to Fort Carson.

I was active duty Army from 15 May 1996 to 30 August 2001.  That much I can verify.  Reason for removal was Chapter 12B (don't quote the number, my DD-214 is in Colorado) "Personality Disorder."  I did serve in 3/29 FA on two different occasions.  I did serve with 1/506th in Korea, attached from 2/17 FA, under CSM Leon-Guerrero (Ranger Hall of Fame and one of the best CSM's I have ever known.)  I did serve a three month tour in Kuwait.  At first 2LT, now probably MAJ (I don't know) Terry Clark was my COLT Platoon leader at Carson, then eventually he was my BDE FSO.

[mikeylikey]

Why are you still lying to us?  Just stop.

[Duke Dillio]

Well I know I deserved that one but the information presented is all verifiable.

[JohnKachenmeister]

OK, this is enough.

Sargrunt has admitted he did something very wrong and has set the record straight.  Kicking him while he is down serves no useful purpose.  Accept his apology and lets move on to an exciting discussion of some minor change in the TPU, or something.

I shall speak no more of this.

[a2capt]

All this bragging was too much to take from the start. He manned up and came clean, but nothing that comes from that poster can ever again be trusted. If this person was in my unit, and put cadets through this FibFest, I'd demand separation immediately. Of course, in person, it might not have happened this way.  Forums are great, we read about all the 'dangers' kids face from pedophiles, the '60 year old guy on myspace probing kids', etc.. but we also have complete utter crud like this.

Folks, we live in the information age. DD214 is just about public record. *ANYTHING* can be verified without your help.

Give it up.

How do we know the spew is the truth now, he had no problem leading us on this charade otherwise.

I've yet to see a braggart not implode under their own pressure..

Go seek professional help in your local community.

(or worse, maybe this whole confession is bogus? Could be way more to it)

Jeeze. Civilian_Pilot and this.. in one week. What a gas.

[mikeylikey]

^  I know I had to produce and make copies of my oath of office, and promotion certs, my ORB and AD records jacket and all my award certificates for AL Applebaum (PAWG CC).  I don't know if he did not trust me or was asking that of all the members in his wing either prior service or current service members.  I have to say I agree with him, if we are going to wear bling and claim awards or schooling we should have to include it in our CAP files.  All I did was black out my Social Security Number when I handed them over to Wing.  They can have everything else, but not my Social.

I say CAPNHQ should make it mandatory to give a copy of AD/GUARD/RES personell documents with a prospective members application.

[Stonewall]

Collette, gained fame from BHD

Gibson is a CSM, In Iraq, had his mess SGT open the chow hall and feed my 12 man team at 0100 even though we were not in the unit. did it just because we were Ranger buddies

Tow is a shooter

Bergman, AKA Birdog is a Great Ranger Buddy

Collette and I were both hurt during the same "final jump" into the FTX.  We were in the hospital together.  We palled around for a few weeks before he went to 3rd Batt.  Good guy, even as a PV-2.

Gibson was a RIP instructor and then, a year or so later, became my PSG at the Old Guard.

I remember Bergman having "Birdog" on the back of his truck.  I think he also had a sticker that said "Caution, driver chews tobacco" or something like that.

Good times. 

[csispecialist08]

Most of you I am sure have read Sargrunt's post about telling his fiancee, well I am her. I had hoped that I would never have to come in here but I know now that I must even if it is just this once.

We have been together for going on two year and this man, as you all refer to him, has taken a great step in having to come forward to all of you as well as to me. I know that it was in no way easy for him and this is not emotionally over. To be honest with you all, everything you have done is only making things worse for this family. He has owned up to his mistakes.

I know little as to his past and his service in the Army but, I do know that he did sevre, for any of you that are questioning his honesty in that aspect. There is no honor to be found in telling a lie but there is honor in making the choice to rectify what has been broken.

One of you mentioned getting professional help for him, and I have to say that that is not your place to say or make that decision. It is up to him and I to do what is right. I am glad that our children are to young to read or to learn of this but they do know that their daddy is hurting and they can see it.

When he told me that he had lied to me, I didn't really know what to think or to feel but, anger was not on my mind much like the rest of you.

Someone once said, " He who hath not sinned may cast the first stone." Based on what I have read no one has ever admitted to ever lying or doing something wrong which I guess makes it ok for all of you to keep casting your stones upon him and the mistakes that he made.

This person also said " That man will not be judged here on earth but in the kingdom of heaven." Where do any of you over rule that. He has set things right and should be left to dwell not on what has happened and what others think but, where he is going to go from here. Let this end here.

[mikeylikey]

Most of you I am sure have read Sargrunt's post about telling his fiancee, well I am her. I had hoped that I would never have to come in here but I know now that I must even if it is just this once.

We have been together for going on two year and this man, as you all refer to him, has taken a great step in having to come forward to all of you as well as to me. I know that it was in no way easy for him and this is not emotionally over. To be honest with you all, everything you have done is only making things worse for this family. He has owned up to his mistakes.

I know little as to his past and his service in the Army but, I do know that he did sevre, for any of you that are questioning his honesty in that aspect. There is no honor to be found in telling a lie but there is honor in making the choice to rectify what has been broken.

One of you mentioned getting professional help for him, and I have to say that that is not your place to say or make that decision. It is up to him and I to do what is right. I am glad that our children are to young to read or to learn of this but they do know that their daddy is hurting and they can see it.

When he told me that he had lied to me, I didn't really know what to think or to feel but, anger was not on my mind much like the rest of you.

Someone once said, " He who hath not sinned may cast the first stone." Based on what I have read no one has ever admitted to ever lying or doing something wrong which I guess makes it ok for all of you to keep casting your stones upon him and the mistakes that he made.

This person also said " That man will not be judged here on earth but in the kingdom of heaven." Where do any of you over rule that. He has set things right and should be left to dwell not on what has happened and what others think but, where he is going to go from here. Let this end here.

Wow OK........Am I to believe you are his wife?  He lied already, perhaps you are really him trying to get the heat off yourself.  I don't give a [darn] if he is a good man, or if he is making good decisions now to rectify his mistake.  As far as I am concerned, he should leave CAP disgraced, and I have seriously thought about turning him in for violation of the stolen valor act.  He is a liar, and has stolen respect from everyone who read his lie.  HOW DARE YOU come here and say we are being hard on him, haw dare you.  Your husband admitted to trying to kill himself THREE (3) times, and based on what he has said in his "confession" I question (or ponder) the fact that he may very well try again because he was caught in very embarrassing situation that brings dishonor to not only himself but his family. 

If you want to question my ability to question your husband and use biblical reasoning, so be it.  If this were the times when that phrase came about, your husband would have been crucified for being a liar, your family would have been sold into slavery for being the family of a liar.

I have nothing against you (if this really is you) or your family.  I do have a problem with your husband publicly making everyone think he is some high-speed awesome prior service soldier.  QUESTION..........does your husband wear these awards to meetings or around town.  If so he could very possibly face jail time and at a minimum a HUGE fine.  Be prepared for that, as I am not one to drop things easily.  I am angered that your husband has done what he has done, in light of what REAL soldiers are doing overseas and in this country.  Your husband could not hack military life, and he has pretended to be something and someone he is not. 

If I were you, I would research and invest in a background check.  We already know he is a liar, what else has he lied about??

Shame on him, and on you for trying to make everyone here feel bad for him, and trying to pass the blame on me.  I am the one you made reference to, you could have just quoted me.

I hope to see your husband stand charges for what he has done.

[Eclipse]

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[mikeylikey]

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This is not a soap opera.  It is very serious.  Don't post here or read any more if you are not interested.  Some people can be real idiots!  You make me mad

[csispecialist08]

Believe as you will, I pose no threat to any of you. You are right in that he has tried to commit suicide 3 times but, how is what you all are doing going to help him. I think that being hard has become an understatment for what is going on in here. Hold on to your anger as much as you may, there is nothing I can do or say to make things better or indifferent. My husband has never worn a badge on his uniform other then his cadet programs badge and his Ground Team Leader Badge. If you decide that filing charges is in the best interests of everyone then so be it but I will be there by his side through it all.

You may hold nothing against me or my family but you are causing more problems then I am sure you will ever know. I know what I know about him and that is enough, what kind of a marriage would I have if I had to snoop into his past. What is done is done.

I pass no balme on anyone and expect no sympathy for the so called dishonor that has befallen me and my family but, I do humbly as for some respect. Not only has my husband fallen under your wrath but two daughters as well. Please let this end, what is done is done and no amount of hatred and anger is going to make things better.

I stand in agreement that what he did is wrong but, for how long is this beating going to cotinue since I am the one that must continuously dress his wounds and pick him up.

[pixelwonk]

Seriously. There is a time and a place for this.  It may be the time, but CAP Talk sure isn't the place.
This topic is done. Move on.