Cedar Rapids, Iowa, just flooded

[isuhawkeye]

when its all said and done well see if anyone sues, and then well see if they win

[Eclipse]

when its all said and done well see if anyone sues, and then well see if they win

Not specific to the videos, but I thought interesting, MSNBC is already asking "who's responsible" - the water isn't even recededed yet and the lawyers are sharpening their teeth already.

On a related note, ILWG is ramping up teams in the Quincy area to provide assessment assistance to the ARC, similar to what we did in Rockford last year.

Our goal is to push the water back West where it came from.   

[isuhawkeye]

Been following "Data" on his tweet updates.  good luck guys

[Johnny Yuma]

so, what does everyone think of that video.  do the actions still seem inapropriate, or are they justified?

also NCR has put out some impressive new press releases.  check them out

Tough call, honestly.

I've got some real heartburn about mandatory evacuations and Strike Teams entering locked homes without homeowner's permission, especially if the only damage seems to be flooding. While I'm not the IC and I'm not there but it appears that the Strike Teams could better work with the homeowners, escorting groups of them into the affected areas and working with them to check out the home instead of B&E and threats.

There's a big difference between entering a pile of rubble looking for survivors and entering a secured house with water damage.

There's a reason behind my thinking: 13 months after Greensburg's EF5 some of the townsfolk there are starting to come forward with some real horror stories about being forced out of what few undamaged homes were left, one person claims at gunpoint, for several days only to find their homes broken into and pilfered during a time that the only persons left in town were cops and firefighters. One resident testified at a State Legislature hearing for Kansas' version of the "No Katrina Gun Grab" law that he even had a large gun safe porta powered open and firearms removed. Mind you these were from homes that sustained little or no damage and that the homes were secured by the residents before they were forced out.

During that time, there were about a dozen arrests made for looting. IIRC all of them were either rescue workers or uniformed soldiers from Fort Riley.

Besides, if you're dumb enough to want to stay in your home as the waters rise to the rafters, or natural gas fills your home after that EF2 slides it off the foundation, why should I stand in the way of Darwin?

[Eclipse]

Besides, if you're dumb enough to want to stay in your home as the waters rise to the rafters, or natural gas fills your home after that EF2 slides it off the foundation, why should I stand in the way of Darwin?

Only because when the house goes ((*boom*)) there will be an expectation that EMS goes and helps (or at least makes the effort).

But I'm also with you on the Darwinian aspect - tough call, but as we all saw with Katrina, there were a lot of people who thought they could tough it out and then went swimming, or were in trouble the next week when supplies stared to run out.

[CadetProgramGuy]

Besides, if you're dumb enough to want to stay in your home as the waters rise to the rafters, or natural gas fills your home after that EF2 slides it off the foundation, why should I stand in the way of Darwin?

Only because when the house goes ((*boom*)) there will be an expectation that EMS goes and helps (or at least makes the effort).

But I'm also with you on the Darwinian aspect - tough call, but as we all saw with Katrina, there were a lot of people who though they could tough it out and then went swimming, or were in trouble the next week when supplies stared to run out.

That when the call goes out that there will be **NO** EMS response in the affected area due to safety of crews.

Kinda like we have No Tow Laws for blizzards.

[CAP Producer]

Here is another update that I shared with a variety of lists and thought this group would be interested.

Subject: Flood Updates

Hello,

Capt Colvin has provided a number of updates and they have been posted to the NCRPAO website at the link below:

http://www.ncrpao.org/specials/2008_ia_floods/iafloods.htm

Chris will share updates on the recovery efforts periodically and they will be posted to the website and to the All-PAO list.

While the focus has switched to recovery in Iowa the crisis continues to ramp-up in Missouri. Waters are cresting and some levies are not standing up to the pressure.

Major Dave Miller, the Deputy Wing PAO in Missouri reports that efforts there have received coverage in the local media.

Dave said:

"Below is the link to reporter John Auble's story on our flood efforts that aired on Monday on the 5:30 edition of the Fox Affiliate (in St. Louis) newscast.

Of course, I'm not entirely pleased with the result as he used archival material we did not know he was going to use (i.e. short sleeved smurf suit), but he got most of it right. Overall a good piece that ran in prime time. Plus I like how they linked to our Wing website and NHQ's.

My sincere thanks to Capt's. Brian Thompson, Mike Smith, and Lt. Col. Randy Fuller, for helping me to put this together this morning on very short notice."

Here is the link to the story:
http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=6830960

Thanks Dave for all of your excellent work on this.

Please keep all of our members working in the flood zone and all of the victims in your thoughts and prayers.

Al.

[CAP Producer]

Here is our most recent update on the floods:

Good Morning,

Major Dave Miller has provided some additional updates on the flood situation in Missouri. They can be seen at http://www.ncrpao.org/specials/2008_ia_floods/iafloods.htm

These will the last regular updates that will be added to the flood site and the Region and NCR PAO websites will be taken off of "Mission Mode" this evening. The 2008 Flood Site will be available for viewing and will be linked off the main NCR PAO webpage. Additional links to photo albums and several releases from South Dakota will be added to the flood site as well.

As the flood water move further south please keep the victims of the floods in your thoughts and prayers.

Wow! It has been quite a month. The floods have touched nearly every wing in the region and we can all be very proud of the efforts our members during this crisis.

I wanted to express my thanks to each of you who were involved, especially to Major Dave Miller and Capt Chris Colvin for your leadership and outstanding work in communicating Civil Air Patrol's involvement in this mission. Their efforts resulted in many people learning about CAP's involvement in the crisis response thru articles in newspapers, the internet and TV coverage. They also kept our members and leadership informed of the great job our people were doing.

Well Done Everyone!