How Long to Process a Form 12?

Started by Shuman 14, September 23, 2021, 05:12:56 PM

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Shuman 14

Accounting for Horseshoes and hand grenades (and COVID-19)... normally how long does it take for CAP HQ to process a new members Form 12 and Fingerprint cards?

"Assuming" there are no issues discovered on the FBI check?
Joseph J. Clune
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Eclipse

2-3 weeks in the before times.

With all the holidays, end of Fiscal Year, and The Vid, probably longer.

Active members will receive an eServices sign off notification once it's processed,
and be in Pending status until the BGC clears.

"That Others May Zoom"

TheSkyHornet

I've seen 3 weeks. I've seen 3 days.

SarDragon

Less than a month is a good generalization.
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Shuman 14

Quote from: Eclipse on September 23, 2021, 06:26:37 PM2-3 weeks in the before times.

With all the holidays, end of Fiscal Year, and The Vid, probably longer.

Active members will receive an eServices sign off notification once it's processed,
and be in Pending status until the BGC clears.

Does that mean the member will get an email notification or the Squadron Leadership will get the notification?

While in the pending status, can they work on Level 1 or do anything besides attend a meeting?
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

PHall

Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 23, 2021, 06:26:37 PM2-3 weeks in the before times.

With all the holidays, end of Fiscal Year, and The Vid, probably longer.

Active members will receive an eServices sign off notification once it's processed,
and be in Pending status until the BGC clears.

Does that mean the member will get an email notification or the Squadron Leadership will get the notification?

While in the pending status, can they work on Level 1 or do anything besides attend a meeting?

They can do nothing until they show up in e-services. You can't do any of the training for Level 1 because you're not in the system yet.

Shuman 14

Quote from: PHall on September 23, 2021, 09:00:09 PMThey can do nothing until they show up in e-services. You can't do any of the training for Level 1 because you're not in the system yet.

So how do they know their in the system? Does CAP HQ email them and say "You're good to go" or does it come down the chain and someone at Squadron (or higher) call/email them that they are good to go?

I "assume" they cash the check regardless if they're good or not?
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

Eclipse

Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 07:55:36 PMDoes that mean the member will get an email notification or the Squadron Leadership will get the notification?

The member gets the notification directly to the email provided on the application.

Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 07:55:36 PMWhile in the pending status, can they work on Level 1 or do anything besides attend a meeting?

You can participate in anything which does not require Level 1, which is more then most people think,
including flying CAP planes and taking a Form 5.

Until there is "LSCode: A" next to your name, certain things won't be clickable or available in eServices.
You can't be unescorted w/ cadets, you can't do ES, etc.

"That Others May Zoom"

Shuman 14

I was just notified that the member in question just got an email with a CAPID, so she's cool now.

Thanks for the input everyone.
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

SarDragon

Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 09:56:03 PMI was just notified that the member in question just got an email with a CAPID, so she's cool now.

Thanks for the input everyone.

It is possible to have a CAPID and NOT have that magic 'A'.
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PHall

Quote from: SarDragon on September 24, 2021, 02:21:48 AM
Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 09:56:03 PMI was just notified that the member in question just got an email with a CAPID, so she's cool now.

Thanks for the input everyone.

It is possible to have a CAPID and NOT have that magic 'A'.

Not only possible, it's pretty much routine depending on how long the FBI takes to do their part.

NIN

7-10 days. Ish.

And the FBI check is nearly immediate.  The cards never leave NHQ, they get scanned and,  at least a few years ago,  there was a PC/server there that was VPN'd to the FBI for that verification system.

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TheSkyHornet

Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 07:55:36 PMDoes that mean the member will get an email notification or the Squadron Leadership will get the notification?

The member will be notified.

The squadron will not.

jeders

Quote from: PHall on September 24, 2021, 04:23:42 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on September 24, 2021, 02:21:48 AM
Quote from: shuman14 on September 23, 2021, 09:56:03 PMI was just notified that the member in question just got an email with a CAPID, so she's cool now.

Thanks for the input everyone.

It is possible to have a CAPID and NOT have that magic 'A'.

Not only possible, it's pretty much routine depending on how long the FBI takes to do their part.

Over the past several years, I don't think I've once seen a new senior member pop up on my rolls who didn't have the 'A' already. Like NIN said, pretty much immediate; unlike days past when it would take days or weeks longer.
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