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Title: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 17, 2020, 06:23:27 PM
I was diving into e-Services in my latest fit of insomnia and looking at the available drop-down menus in Characteristics and Military Branches, one of the options is for the USPHS.

https://usphs.gov/aboutus/

Today was the day I learned the Public Health Service has a commissioned non-military corps of uniformed volunteers who are untrained in the profession of arms.

And they've had it since 1871.

A comparison of ranks can be found here:

https://usphs.gov/docs/pdfs/uniform/Uniformed%20Service%20Rank%20Chart.pdf

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Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Paul Creed III on June 17, 2020, 06:30:31 PM
NOAA Commissioned Officer Corp as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA_Commissioned_Officer_Corps
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Capt Thompson on June 17, 2020, 06:31:55 PM
One of the networks actually ran a piece about them at the beginning of the pandemic that was pretty interesting, if I can recall which one and find a link I'll post it.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 17, 2020, 06:32:48 PM
Quote from: Paul Creed III on June 17, 2020, 06:30:31 PMNOAA Commissioned Officer Corp as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA_Commissioned_Officer_Corps

It seems they were unworthy of an e-Services drop-down menu entry.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: TheSkyHornet on June 17, 2020, 06:33:34 PM
Technically speaking, the U.S. Public Health Service is not, in itself, a uniformed service. The Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is the uniformed body within the PHS (where the Surgeon General Resides).

There are actually 8 U.S. uniformed services:

The PHS is not an armed service, at least not in the sense of Armed Forces. It's a part of the U.S. Department of Commerce.

All of the non-DOD entities use a naval rank structure.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: CFToaster on June 17, 2020, 06:48:41 PM
Actually, sir., the PHS is under Health And Human Services, not Commerce.

If anyone has any particular questions, I served with the PHS as a member of a Disaster Medical Assistance Team. I'm in the process of onboarding again after a couple of years off.

The Commissioned Corps guys always stood out because we intermittent employees wore khaki BDU's, and they wore woodlands.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: TheSkyHornet on June 17, 2020, 07:04:22 PM
I stand corrected.

I was thinking NOAA as I typed.  ;D
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: NIN on June 17, 2020, 10:27:51 PM
Our National Health Services Officer, Lt Col Janisko, is also Commander Janisko, USPHS. He's the Command Surgeon for the Corps of Engineers, interestingly enough.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Capt Thompson on June 17, 2020, 10:57:35 PM
The current Surgeon General, Vice Admiral Jerome Adams, has only been a part of the PHS since his appointment in 2017, so it looks like maybe rank is awarded for position?
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Eclipse on June 17, 2020, 11:10:42 PM
Correct - you get the Johnny Bravo suit when you get appointed.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: JC004 on June 18, 2020, 12:16:44 PM
Naming all the Uniformed Services was an impromptu quiz that Ned sprung on us WIWAC.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: Eclipse on June 18, 2020, 01:27:43 PM
To be fair, it was harder then as each colony had their own.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: JC004 on June 19, 2020, 07:03:41 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 18, 2020, 01:27:43 PMTo be fair, it was harder then as each colony had their own.

WHEN I WAS A CADET, PLUTO WAS A PLANET
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: THRAWN on June 19, 2020, 11:03:12 AM
Quote from: JC004 on June 19, 2020, 07:03:41 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 18, 2020, 01:27:43 PMTo be fair, it was harder then as each colony had their own.

WHEN I WAS A CADET, PLUTO WAS A PLANET

Two words: film strips
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: NIN on June 19, 2020, 11:43:51 AM
Ok, guys, let's leave the kinoscopes at the door and get back to the topic at hand.
Title: Re: USPHS, That other uniformed service
Post by: GroundHawg on June 19, 2020, 05:43:23 PM
The USPHS is an interesting service.
They have the authorization for Warrant Officers and can commission them at any time, yet never have.
They have had a Ready Reserve, but has never had the funding for it until just recently.
Service in the USPHS is considered active military service and receive the same benefits as the other better known branches.

I put a motion forth that my VFW hang a NOAA, USPHS, and Merchant Marine flags and received many complements on them once we did. We even had a USPHS member join up