A question on uniform wear and timming.

Started by C/Martin, June 02, 2010, 01:57:19 PM

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C/Martin

If a CAP member passes away, is it appropriate to wear a uniform to the funeral?
Regards,
C/CMSgt
Todd Martin
Executive Officer/Chief
VA-023

Seabee219

I beliave yes, if that person was a CAP member.  Check 39-1 to be 100% sure.
CAP Capt, Retired US Navy Seabee.
  MRO, MS, MO, UDF, GT3, MSA, CUL
1. Lead by example, and take care of your people

MSgt Van

According to CAP Protocol pamphlet 3:
"CONCLUSION
A funeral is a sad occasion and it is important that the wishes
of the next of kin be honored. Civil Air Patrol personnel may,
of course, attend church and grave site funeral services of a
fellow CAP member, in or out of uniform.
Under no
circumstances, will a CAP member participate in the funeral
ceremonies unless specifically requested."

If you do wear your uniform, make sure it's perfect. And I mean PERFECT. From your haircut to your shoe shine.


C/Martin

Regards,
C/CMSgt
Todd Martin
Executive Officer/Chief
VA-023

viperred396

Quote from: MSgt Van on June 02, 2010, 02:21:16 PM
According to CAP Protocol pamphlet 3:
"CONCLUSION
A funeral is a sad occasion and it is important that the wishes
of the next of kin be honored. Civil Air Patrol personnel may,
of course, attend church and grave site funeral services of a
fellow CAP member, in or out of uniform.
Under no
circumstances, will a CAP member participate in the funeral
ceremonies unless specifically requested."

If you do wear your uniform, make sure it's perfect. And I mean PERFECT. From your haircut to your shoe shine.

What if it is a military service member that is not part of CAP?

JayT

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Quote from: viperred396 on June 02, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
Quote from: MSgt Van on June 02, 2010, 02:21:16 PM
According to CAP Protocol pamphlet 3:
"CONCLUSION
A funeral is a sad occasion and it is important that the wishes
of the next of kin be honored. Civil Air Patrol personnel may,
of course, attend church and grave site funeral services of a
fellow CAP member, in or out of uniform.
Under no
circumstances, will a CAP member participate in the funeral
ceremonies unless specifically requested."

If you do wear your uniform, make sure it's perfect. And I mean PERFECT. From your haircut to your shoe shine.

What if it is a military service member that is not part of CAP?

You gotta ask yourself then, is it appropriate? Are you doing it to honor the guy, or to show off? Is it going to distract from the rest of the funeral?
"Eagerness and thrill seeking in others' misery is psychologically corrosive, and is also rampant in EMS. It's a natural danger of the job. It will be something to keep under control, something to fight against."

MSgt Van

Unless the association with the deceased was due to CAP (liason officer, etc) I'd think no.

RiverAux

Quote from: viperred396 on June 02, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
What if it is a military service member that is not part of CAP?
Well, the people on CAPTalk who believe that it is ok to wear a CAP uniform for any reason that gets into their head whether or not it has anything to do with CAP will say thats just fine since it has something to do with the military while others who believe that there needs to be a legitimate obvious link to a CAP activity in order for a CAP uniform to be worn or lacking an obvious link, specific permission to wear the uniform has been granted  by their commander. 

vmstan

If it was say, someone who inspired you to join CAP who was military, or a family member, or someone that you had some link to that it would serve to honor them by being there in a perfect uniform, then yes. Ask the parent/spouse/family if it would be OK and then ask your commander for approval. My guess is if the motivation is true neither one will have a problem with it.
MICHAEL M STANCLIFT, 1st Lt, CAP
Public Affairs Officer, NCR-KS-055, Heartland Squadron

Quote"I wish to compliment NHQ on this extremely well and clearly written regulation.
This publication once and for all should establish the uniform pattern to be followed
throughout Civil Air Patrol."

1949 Uniform and Insignia Committee comment on CAP Reg 35-4