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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:24:55 PM

Title: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:24:55 PM
Hey guys, im eligible for 3 propellers on one of my rewards, and i saw the 3 propeller cluster on vanguard-mil. Now, does this entire thing go on the ribbon, or can you actually detach each propeller individually, because i imagine it looking horrible if you put it as is on the ribbon. Thanks again.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: MSG Mac on May 26, 2014, 07:28:15 PM
If it's sold as a three it's on set of connected propellors
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: LSThiker on May 26, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
There are two schools of thought on this:

1)  Use the connected ribbon devices such as the one you are describing and attach it to the ribbon as a single device, or

2)  Use three separate individual devices and attach those to the ribbon by dividing the ribbon into thirds

Some people will harp that one is better over the other.  To me, it makes no difference as long as they look good.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: Eclipse on May 26, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: LSThiker on May 26, 2014, 07:33:44 PMTo me, it makes no difference as long as they look good.

+1 - It will be harder to get 3 aligned straight as separate attachments, but there's no spec either way.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
ok, thanks gentlemen!
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 07:41:50 PM
So.....did you get your membership stuff take care of.....and if so......how can you be eligible for three CAP ribbons in so short of a time?
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Yes, i finally became a member. I wrote a very in depth letter describing my situation, i became an airman the other day. ^
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
And i am legible because i have 205 hours of volunteer service + proof
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: LSThiker on May 26, 2014, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
And i am legible because i have 205 hours of volunteer service + proof

Actually you are eligible for only 2 devices.  The ribbon is awarded for 60 hours.  Each additional device is 60 hours.  So in order to have 3 devices, you would need 240 hours.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Yes, i finally became a member. I wrote a very in depth letter describing my situation, i became an airman the other day. ^
Congrats...welcome to CAP.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: Eclipse on May 26, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
You may want to hold off spending money until the decoration(s) are approved.

This sounds like the hours may have been done while you weren't even a member.
If so, your CC may not be inclined to approve them.

Either way, as indicated, it's a ribbon +2 attachments.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: a2capt on May 26, 2014, 09:51:44 PM
Had a cadet insist he should be getting credit for something like 1,000 hours once.

With about 2,000 work hours in a year, and a cadets' primary job being school, that was interesting. ;-)
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 26, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
You may want to hold off spending money until the decoration(s) are approved.

This sounds like the hours may have been done while you weren't even a member.
If so, your CC may not be inclined to approve them.

Either way, as indicated, it's a ribbon +2 attachments.
In this case...there is enough of a gray area about "while you weren't even a member" that I would just let it pass.   Remember this is the guy who has "been in CAP" for at least two years without being a member.

So....like I said....not worth getting all technical about it.

Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: Panache on May 26, 2014, 10:07:27 PM
Quote from: negraru96 on May 26, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
And i am legible because i have 205 hours of volunteer service + proof

You can claim volunteer service hours before you were a CAP member?  Sweet!  I need to submit all those hours with the local ambulance corps and volunteer fire department all those years ago.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 27, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
If there is a 2,3, 4 device cluster, why not use them?
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: PHall on May 27, 2014, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
If there is a 2,3, 4 device cluster, why not use them?


Because......


They.....


Suck....


Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: Garibaldi on May 27, 2014, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: PHall on May 27, 2014, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
If there is a 2,3, 4 device cluster, why not use them?


Because......


They.....


Suck....


It's a cluster f*** /runs
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 27, 2014, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: PHall on May 27, 2014, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
If there is a 2,3, 4 device cluster, why not use them?


Because......


They.....


Suck....

I have no problems with them.
Title: Re: 3 Triangle Cluster question
Post by: PHall on May 28, 2014, 01:48:35 AM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on May 27, 2014, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: PHall on May 27, 2014, 11:01:33 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
If there is a 2,3, 4 device cluster, why not use them?


Because......


They.....


Suck....

I have no problems with them.


Compare the CAP triangular clasp 3 device with say a 3 oak leaf cluster device like the military uses.
The CAP device has the devices seperated while the oak leaf cluster device has then clustered together.
Not to mention that the level of detail is much, much better on the military stuff vs what CAP uses.
And the funny thing is that they're both manufactured by Vanguard.