New Army Uniform Announced

[Whocares]

"Branch Immaterial" and "Public Affairs" use Teal Blue with yellow piping.

Teal blue with white is branch immaterial. 

Sergeant Major of the Army has no color assigned.  In fact AR 670-1 does not even make mention of E-9s using any branch color since enlisted personnel do not wear branch color.  Even on the mess dress, enlisted wear dark blue lapels, chaplains black, general officers dark blue, and all other officers the first listed color on page 249 of AR 670-1. 

[AlphaSigOU]

All this mention of Army branch colors remind me of the WWII German Waffenfarbe.  Their system to distinguish combat arms/branches was quite complicated. Even the Luftwaffe and the Waffen SS got in on their own complicated Waffenfarbe system. The Kriegsmarine (navy) wisely kept it simple - as far as I can remember they didn't use Waffenfarbe.

Thank God Ma Blue never implemented one... 

[SJFedor]

Maybe she is Moblie Infantry? 

[JohnKachenmeister]

All this mention of Army branch colors remind me of the WWII German Waffenfarbe.  Their system to distinguish combat arms/branches was quite complicated. Even the Luftwaffe and the Waffen SS got in on their own complicated Waffenfarbe system. The Kriegsmarine (navy) wisely kept it simple - as far as I can remember they didn't use Waffenfarbe.

Thank God Ma Blue never implemented one... 

Ma Blue doesn't have branches.

I wore the green and gold of the Military Police on my set of blues.  The area I lived in was Engineer-heavy, with two battalions and a brigade hq within 20 miles.  Lots of scarlet epaulets.  Two or three Infantry Blue from the NG company in Bowling Green, and sometimes a Cavalry buff yellow from the Cleaveland-area 107th ACR.  Add in some color-of-dried-blood medics, and you would have a very colorful and festive assortment of rank devices and sleeve lace!

[alamrcn]

Orientation flights on military aircraft are high-speed, you get me Cadets?

WE GET YOU, SIR!

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Now back to the real new Army uniforms...

[O-Rex]

As for the jacket & tie combo, I don't see it being worn a whole lot in day-to-day duty, not even in the pentagon, which I understand has gone to "warfighter uniforms," i.e., ACU's, ABU's & Marpats  (chime in, active-duty folks)  I don't think the braid & insignia would stand up to daily wear (Dress Blue Officer bling is Expen$ive!)  Those of you who remember the "deluxe" bullion bling, forget it!

One thing does come to mind: the only use for Army Officer's full-color metal pin-on is for Berets and Windbreakers/Overcoats, right?

Full-color patches will probably become collectors items in 20 years. . . .

SJFedor: is that still photo from SST3??

[DNall]

As for the jacket & tie combo, I don't see it being worn a whole lot in day-to-day duty, not even in the pentagon, which I understand has gone to "warfighter uniforms," i.e., ACU's, ABU's & Marpats  (chime in, active-duty folks)  I don't think the braid & insignia would stand up to daily wear (Dress Blue Officer bling is Expen$ive!)  Those of you who remember the "deluxe" bullion bling, forget it!

One thing does come to mind: the only use for Army Officer's full-color metal pin-on is for Berets and Windbreakers/Overcoats, right?

yeah metal grade would would only be for berets & alternate jackets (windbreaker, raincoat, etc). And yes, full color patches go away.

Utility uniforms are worn at work in Washington now - following the example of the Army policy. It's still not an everyday thing, and it's not appropriate for a lot of situations. Longer-term, as we ramp back down from war, we'll return to wearing Class A/B for office environments.

[Stonewall]

[Flying Pig]

This uniform is just plain ugly and screams JROTC.

[JAFO78]

Its so bad, That I can't stop laughing to post a comment.

ROFLMAO.

[NIN]

Its so bad, That I can't stop laughing to post a comment.

ROFLMAO.

I was at AUSA two years ago when they rolled out "Army Strong!" and let me just say that a certain fellow member of mine who is an SFC in Afghanistan at the moment, used the phrase "Army Gay!" to describe his feelings about "Army Strong!"

So much so that there is a poster to that effect that I cannot share publicly.

[D2SK]

I'm really thankful for this CAP relevant and informative message thread. 

[Pylon]

I'm really thankful for this CAP relevant and informative message thread. 

It is distantly related in that members who wish to wear a more military-style-cut white shirt with the CSU can probably use this new Army shirt once produced.  It's also interesting to note the creation of new military uniforms (and specifically what direction theirs has taken) while our uniforms are also in a state of flux.

[DNall]

Correct... and, correct.

The shirt will be avail March 2009 from Marlow White. Right now they're recommending temporary use of the same shirts we're using. I would almost promise you the Army white shirt will become the CAP standard, either officially or unofficially, shortly thereafter.

It is also interesting to note the degree of out-o-control bling the Army let onto even the class B version. It makes it harder to justify keeping CAP's bling obsessed under control.

It's also an almost 3 month old thread, so drive on.

[JayT]

Correct... and, correct.

The shirt will be avail March 2009 from Marlow White. Right now they're recommending temporary use of the same shirts we're using. I would almost promise you the Army white shirt will become the CAP standard, either officially or unofficially, shortly thereafter.

Totally disagree.

Most Senior Members will likely not even know about the transition, nore will they be willing to buy a new shirt when the old commerical pilots style does just fine.

[DNall]

I'm actually thinking we're going to mandate it with a several year transition period. Call it 2011-13, but that's a guess.

It doesn't matter that it's an Army shirt or not. The key is the quality & standardized cut that matches the blues shirt. Not trying to make anyone rush out and buy something new. Just replace it with this when that one wears out, and they do after a year or two. This is a great shirt coming out. I think most people will really like it.

[D2SK]

All you uniform weenies should love this.  It's just been announced but this URL will take you to the new CAP uniform for SMWOG.

http://tinyurl.com/5rdcyh

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

Just screams Neidamyer (sp?) to me. Animal House for you younger ones out there

[JAFO78]

All you uniform weenies should love this.  It's just been announced but this URL will take you to the new CAP uniform for SMWOG.

http://tinyurl.com/5rdcyh

OK, OK. look you.....guys,,,,,have...to...stop..I can't...type..and...,while...wiping..the tears of joy...from...my eyes...(laugh) :clap:

Oh stop it please!!!!!!!!!!!!! rolling across floor, please stop....

I think I way have soiled my self.....please...stop....rolling across floor

[SJFedor]

SJFedor: is that still photo from SST3??

Believe it's from the original, on the first major drop on Klendathu.

And now that I sound like a total nerd....