New USAF Service Coat

afgeo4 · January 20, 2008, 03:59:37 AM

I know this isn't total news, but the Air Force had last year made a decision on the new service coat. Does anyone know details of the wear test or is it already being phased in?

Today on www.af.mil I noticed the article on USAFE change of command and in the photo, the incoming CC, General Brady, is wearing just that uniform. Looks odd... don't know if I like it after all.

Eclipse · January 20, 2008, 04:15:48 AM

FWIW I think it has a much more military cut than the current one. Just look at the Army general next to him.

Not sure on the belt.

I was somewhat surprised to see him wearing a flight cap to such an formal occasion - does the new uniform have a wheel cap?

Another pic closer up:

lordmonar · January 20, 2008, 04:16:24 AM

Still wear testing as far as I know.

As far as the service cap is concered....the flight cap has been okay for all functions for a long time now. I don't even think it is a required item for officers anymore....I know it is not required for enlisted personnel.

PHall · January 20, 2008, 04:17:28 AM

The service cap be worn with the new service dress at the wearers option.

mikeylikey · January 20, 2008, 04:26:54 AM

ehhh....no thank you. Looks hideous. Lose the belt at a minimum.

PHall · January 20, 2008, 06:24:06 AM

Quote from: lordmonar on January 20, 2008, 04:16:24 AM
I don't even think it is a required item for officers anymore....I know it is not required for enlisted personnel.

It's required for Majors and above. Optional for everybody else.

PHall · January 20, 2008, 06:25:40 AM

Quote from: mikeylikey on January 20, 2008, 04:26:54 AM
ehhh....no thank you. Looks hideous. Lose the belt at a minimum.

Better learn to like the belt. It's one of the "distinguishing design features" of the new/old Service Dress Jacket.

Hawk200 · January 20, 2008, 07:07:25 AM

I kinda like it. At least the now have the belt covering the bottom button. The way they had it before with the belt running between the bottom two looked a little half-baked. The coat in the above pic looks pretty decent actually.

BuckeyeDEJ · January 20, 2008, 09:01:58 PM

I don't have a problem with the current uniform. I'd rather wear a simple uniform than a museum exhibit.

Hey, doesn't the side with the simplest uniforms win?

Hawk200 · January 20, 2008, 09:15:21 PM

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on January 20, 2008, 09:01:58 PM
I don't have a problem with the current uniform. I'd rather wear a simple uniform than a museum exhibit.

Hey, doesn't the side with the simplest uniforms win?

Were you around when that one came in? There is such a thing as too simple.

I can remember Airline pilot and stewardess jokes being told, ad nauseam. Can't say I'm gonna miss it, I don't like suits anyway.

JohnKachenmeister · January 21, 2008, 04:04:51 PM

Back before the McPeak bluesuit, we used to call the Air Force guys "Bus drivers," due to the similarity of the old uniform to a Greyhound driver's uniform.

Marines... "Seagoing bellhops."

The Navy tropical white long... "The Good Humor Man Uniform." (Even the Navy guys called it that!)

You're never gonna get away from the inter-service jokes.

Like when the Army went to a black beret, and the Marines started calling it the "Monica Lewinsky Hat."

afgeo4 · January 21, 2008, 04:26:51 PM

AAAAAA!!! Now I know why I don't like it... it reminds me of this:

Gunner C · January 21, 2008, 04:40:26 PM

Wow! No wonder they're now giving military service credit to the AF!

It actually looks military!

Bear Walling · January 21, 2008, 04:46:30 PM

Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
AAAAAA!!! Now I know why I don't like it... it reminds me of this:

I think Nazi Germany had some of the best looking uniforms ever. Just my opinion.

tjaxe · January 21, 2008, 05:01:46 PM

Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
AAAAAA!!! Now I know why I don't like it... it reminds me of this:

It definitely looks "more military" but I think it can be more favorably compared to the British WWII (service?) coat. I have to agree that Nazi Germany churned out some amazing uniforms but as a person who they would've killed about 5 times over based on their ideology, AND since I like the new coat, I prefer to compare it to the Brits' coat.

Bear Walling · January 21, 2008, 05:15:25 PM

We would do the same thing.

And I agree, the new coat is more easily compared to a WWII era British service coat.

Gunner C · January 21, 2008, 05:50:39 PM

Quote from: mfd_324 on January 21, 2008, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
AAAAAA!!! Now I know why I don't like it... it reminds me of this:

I think Nazi Germany had some of the best looking uniforms ever. Just my opinion.

Unless you were being turned into a lamp shade. YMMV

JohnKachenmeister · January 21, 2008, 06:08:42 PM

Somebody once pointed out that our own TPU is styled very similar to the German "Kurz Rock fur Generalen." (Short coat for generals). Now I'm starting to FEEL like Herman Goring, not just look like him!

JohnKachenmeister · January 21, 2008, 06:11:37 PM

Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
AAAAAA!!! Now I know why I don't like it... it reminds me of this:

George:

Where did you get that picture?

It appears to be a Wehrmacht uniform (not Waffen SS as the red text indicates) but the uniform has a pilot's badge on it. Also, the dummy in the picture is not wearing his Nazi party membership badge.

LtCol White · January 21, 2008, 07:04:17 PM

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on January 21, 2008, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 21, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
AAAAAA!!! Now I know why I don't like it... it reminds me of this:

George:

Where did you get that picture?

It appears to be a Wehrmacht uniform (not Waffen SS as the red text indicates) but the uniform has a pilot's badge on it. Also, the dummy in the picture is not wearing his Nazi party membership badge.

It is Waffen SS grade officer coat. Wehrmacht wore the eagle on the breast, SS wore it on the left sleeve. Wehrmacht also had collar Litzen, SS had the black patches with rank insignia in them.