eServices announcement about ABUs

[abdsp51]

Only scuttlebutt as to changing uniforms has been changing the service dress uniform not the ABU.  Chances are the ABU is going to be here for awhile and not changing anytime soon especially with Force Reductions and a reduced operating budget DOD wide.

[RogueLeader]

Dod budget has not been cut. Only the percentage increase has been lessened. For example, there is to be a 17% increase in the budget, but it gets amended to 12%.  Congress calls that a 5% budget cut. They still get more than last year.

[ProdigalJim]

Dod budget has not been cut. Only the percentage increase has been lessened. For example, there is to be a 17% increase in the budget, but it gets amended to 12%.  Congress calls that a 5% budget cut. They still get more than last year.

:clap:  :clap:  :clap:

[JeffDG]

Dod budget has not been cut. Only the percentage increase has been lessened. For example, there is to be a 17% increase in the budget, but it gets amended to 12%.  Congress calls that a 5% budget cut. They still get more than last year.

Wow, I had budgeted for a 55% raise this year, only got 4%, so I guess I took an 21% pay cut!   

In order to sacrifice more next year, I've decided to budget for a 50% raise next year...ya gotta make sacrifices, donchaknow.

[RogueLeader]

Dod budget has not been cut. Only the percentage increase has been lessened. For example, there is to be a 17% increase in the budget, but it gets amended to 12%.  Congress calls that a 5% budget cut. They still get more than last year.

Wow, I had budgeted for a 55% raise this year, only got 4%, so I guess I took an 21% pay cut!   

In order to sacrifice more next year, I've decided to budget for a 50% raise next year...ya gotta make sacrifices, donchaknow.

I think that's a 31% pay cut, but that's just math.

[JeffDG]

Dod budget has not been cut. Only the percentage increase has been lessened. For example, there is to be a 17% increase in the budget, but it gets amended to 12%.  Congress calls that a 5% budget cut. They still get more than last year.

Wow, I had budgeted for a 55% raise this year, only got 4%, so I guess I took an 21% pay cut!   

In order to sacrifice more next year, I've decided to budget for a 50% raise next year...ya gotta make sacrifices, donchaknow.

I think that's a 31% pay cut, but that's just math.

Oops...meant 25%...and for the record, what I wrote would work out to a 51% pay cut, not 31%

[SarDragon]

For bofyas - 55 - 4 = 51.

Doing math like that with percentages is deceptive, anyway, because of the way the multiplications work. Which number are you taking a percentage of, the lower figure, or the larger one?

E.g. adding a 25% increase, then reducing it to the original figure onkly gives you a 20% decrease.

100 + 25% (25) = 125

25 = 20% of 125

Working with the numbers above, and starting with 100, we get:

100 + 17% = 117

117 - 5% = 111.15, not 112

[RickRutledge]

NEXT ITEM FOR DEBATE:

The proposed USAF change to the Service Dress -- away from our McPeak Style we currently have (Seniors).

The USAF has a hold on any uniform changes (much like us) and they haven't moved an inch since 2009 on it. BUT, it most likely will happen in the next few years....

**LET THE MOANING AND GROANING BEGIN***

[PHall]

NEXT ITEM FOR DEBATE:

The proposed USAF change to the Service Dress -- away from our McPeak Style we currently have (Seniors).

The USAF has a hold on any uniform changes (much like us) and they haven't moved an inch since 2009 on it. BUT, it most likely will happen in the next few years....

**LET THE MOANING AND GROANING BEGIN***

Olde news there guy. GEN Swartz has said that the Service Dress Uniform will not change while he is the Chief of Staff.
The service has more pressing issues to deal with. Things like the skyrocketing divorce rate and things like that.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I thought the AF had put the kibosh on any changes to the service dress, including this one:



I do have to say I like it a lot better than the McPeak/Fogleman "business suit;" it's like the old pinks-and-greens in cut.

It reminds me a little of the RAAF (which is RAF-cut but much darker blue), except theirs doesn't have epaulettes:

[RickRutledge]

Awesome. Glad I posted it.

In all seriousness, we need to find something else to debate.

[PHall]

Okay, how about the next person who starts another uniform thread on CAPTalk will be drawn and quartered.

[ColonelJack]

But what will the uniform of the day be for the drawing and quartering?   

Jack

[NIN]

It reminds me a little of the RAAF (which is RAF-cut but much darker blue), except theirs doesn't have epaulettes:

You know what I mean? Their uniform doesn't even have epaulets and this, that and everything else...

[abdsp51]

Actually budget has been cut and it's been felt at all levels.  Civilian/military workers are getting cut, vehicle fleets are being reduced and some programs are/have been terminated.  But to the thread there has been no official word on the ABU being ditched, the only that was mentioned was the introduction of a lighter weight version being made available to all, and trying to redesign the the service uniform.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

You know what I mean? Their uniform doesn't even have epaulets and this, that and everything else...

No, sir, what you mean flew right past me.

Colonel Jack: The UOD for drawing and quartering will of course be Mess Dress (think about it).

[MIKE]

You know what I mean? Their uniform doesn't even have epaulets and this, that and everything else...

No, sir, what you mean flew right past me.

Colonel Jack: The UOD for drawing and quartering will of course be Mess Dress (think about it).

Armstrong & Miller - WWII RAF Sketch

[Darkside1]

NEXT ITEM FOR DEBATE:

The proposed USAF change to the Service Dress -- away from our McPeak Style we currently have (Seniors).

The USAF has a hold on any uniform changes (much like us) and they haven't moved an inch since 2009 on it. BUT, it most likely will happen in the next few years....

**LET THE MOANING AND GROANING BEGIN***

Olde news there guy. GEN Swartz has said that the Service Dress Uniform will not change while he is the Chief of Staff.
The service has more pressing issues to deal with. Things like the skyrocketing divorce rate and things like that.

I've seen it before but its definitely a huge improvement in my opinion. I would be an early adopter of that uniform. The McPeak coat was and always will be lame. I'm still not sure why he felt we needed to look more like the navy... or an airline pilot.... or just a business suit in general.

That belt would look sharp if you had the waistline for it and even if you don't at least it looks more military in style.

[SarDragon]

The belt is a huge tailoring problem. Not everyone's waist is at the same place on their body, and it it's not in the right place on the coat, it looks like crap.

[MSG Mac]

They've adopted (stolen) the belt from the USMC