ABU uniform for Civil Air Patrol

[RogueLeader]

My squadron commander said that we could wear the ABUs now. So I don't really know what is going on.

Sure you can wear them, just not for CAP, as they are not authorized anywhere.  Look for an ICL (Interm Change Letter) on EServices.  I guarantee that there isn't one.



as of 16:36 MST

[JK657]

If you guys are wearing them I'd like to see some pictures.... Need to see some proof or I'm going to throw the BS flag

[a2capt]

...and you sewed what insignia on, against what manual, that shows what photos?

Next.

[NCRblues]

Either OK wing has a rouge squadron.....

or more than likely, you are all getting PROFESSIONALY trolled!!

[titanII]

[SarDragon]

1. I don't know about the regular reviews of the uniform structure, because we are still working with a CAP uniform regulation that is decades old with less than a handful of tiny ICL changes, many of which were made in the last 5 years and only exist to rescind each other.

Decades? Really?

Taken directly from the current manual: CAP MANUAL 39-1, 23 MARCH 2005

According to my arithmetic, it will be all of seven years old in two months. Not quite even one decade.

When you start throwing numbers arouns like that, it tends to reduce the credibility of anything else you might have to say in a post.

[SarDragon]

Either OK wing has a rouge squadron.....

or more than likely, you are all getting PROFESSIONALY trolled!!

I prefer the teal, myself.

[NCRblues]

Either OK wing has a rouge squadron.....

or more than likely, you are all getting PROFESSIONALY trolled!!

I prefer the [/color]teal, myself.

Wops... rogue

I guess they could have a rouge squadron as well 

[RogueLeader]

Either OK wing has a rouge squadron.....

or more than likely, you are all getting PROFESSIONALY trolled!!

I prefer the [/color]teal, myself.

Wops... rogue

I guess they could have a rouge squadron as well 

For the record, I do NOT lead it. Despite my board name.

[a2capt]

or more than likely, you are all getting PROFESSIONALY trolled!!

Hence the "Next." after a Stealth BS flag is thrown down.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Basher, one thing I hope you will learn as a cadet is the INTEGRITY part of our Core Values.

I don't believe for a minute that your squadron CC authorised your squadron to wear ABU's...at least not in a CAP context, and certainly not with CAP insignia.  Said CC would have to know that such an aberration would very soon become known to Group, then Wing CC...and that'd be a whole lotta trouble.

[JK657]

Anyone near this squadron that can do some follow up on this?

[abdsp51]

I'm sill trying to understand the hype over getting ABUs.  Outside of the fire resistant ones authorized for certain AFSCs there is really nothing different about them than the BDUs outside of the fact you do not iron them or polish the boots.  Outside of that they can be just as hot if not hotter than BDUs and take a few washes to soften up. 

[a2capt]

...and they're somewhat easier to get for some people, certainly a lot more than it used to be.  ... and the current uniform is becoming a bit harder to get .. for some people. Otherwise - not much different.

[RogueLeader]

I'm sill trying to understand the hype over getting ABUs.  Outside of the fire resistant ones authorized for certain AFSCs there is really nothing different about them than the BDUs outside of the fact you do not iron them or polish the boots.  Outside of that they can be just as hot if not hotter than BDUs and take a few washes to soften up.

It's called wanting to be in the same uniform as our parent service. Some want them for the cool factor.

[Extremepredjudice]

I'm sill trying to understand the hype over getting ABUs.  Outside of the fire resistant ones authorized for certain AFSCs there is really nothing different about them than the BDUs outside of the fact you do not iron them or polish the boots.  Outside of that they can be just as hot if not hotter than BDUs and take a few washes to soften up.

It's called wanting to be in the same uniform as our parent service. Some want them for the cool factor.

Some don't want to polish or iron.

[SARDOC]

I just want a uniform everyone can wear so that we can at least try to look like a professional consistent organization.  I don't care if it's green, blue, orange whatever.  One Field/Utility uniform for everybody.

If it's ABU's fine...BDU's Okay, BBDU's Dealio...don't really care.  Just wear it professionally and it should help towards the Objectives of our organization.  We don't share a field uniform with our parent service now and won't for the foreseeable future.  Their doing...Not Ours.  Why not try to establish our own identity so people know who we are?  Do that with our Field uniforms and maintain our historically heritage ties with our Dress uniforms.

[Extremepredjudice]

I just want a uniform everyone can wear so that we can at least try to look like a professional consistent organization.  I don't care if it's green, blue, orange whatever.  One Field/Utility uniform for everybody.

If it's ABU's fine...BDU's Okay, BBDU's Dealio...don't really care.  Just wear it professionally and it should help towards the Objectives of our organization.  We don't share a field uniform with our parent service now and won't for the foreseeable future.  Their doing...Not Ours.  Why not try to establish our own identity so people know who we are?  Do that with our Field uniforms and maintain our historically heritage ties with our Dress uniforms.

Imagine that with our blue tapes..

[rustyjeeper]

/quote]Some don't want to polish or iron.

Okay this brings up an intersting question.
Boots should be polished and look good as should shoes. No argument there from me....
BUT

Uniforms should not have loose threads or be frayed and wrinkled.
CAP Regs specifically prohibit "military creases" and say NOTHING about ironing being required whatsoever that i have ever found.
Can you please point to where outside of a a "neat and professional appearance" the regs state a uniform must be ironed?

[SARDOC]

Imagine that with our blue tapes..

Who said we needed to use the Blue tapes...we can use whatever we want.  Just Has to be approved by Ma Blue.