I give you - the King of Stolen Valor

Started by Eclipse, July 29, 2011, 01:13:06 AM

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Quote from: lordmonar on July 29, 2011, 10:55:02 PM
Well to be fair......it is remotely possible for him to be real.

He is the right age to have all those medals (assumeing he joined WWII  in 43 at 18) he could have seen action in vietnam in 62-73, that would be 30 years of service and only be 48.  Stranger things have been known to happen.

I do know that the UK takes VC faces very seriously, even more so then the U.S. does with the MoH.

And it is standard for veterans to wear their decorations on civilian jacket....they usually do better then that...but I have seen worse.

Except that I got the photo from an Australian website dedicated to frauds.
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lordmonar

Quote from: CyBorg on July 30, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on July 29, 2011, 10:55:02 PM
Well to be fair......it is remotely possible for him to be real.

He is the right age to have all those medals (assumeing he joined WWII  in 43 at 18) he could have seen action in vietnam in 62-73, that would be 30 years of service and only be 48.  Stranger things have been known to happen.

I do know that the UK takes VC faces very seriously, even more so then the U.S. does with the MoH.

And it is standard for veterans to wear their decorations on civilian jacket....they usually do better then that...but I have seen worse.

Except that I got the photo from an Australian website dedicated to frauds.
Well.....you didn't say that did you :(

Okay then......the old fart is a doosh!  Off with his head! ;)
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

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Flying Pig

An Austrailian with an entire chest full of American medals. Thats AWESOME.  Maybe an exchange program? ;D

MSG Mac

#44
He claims to have served as an Australian Officer in an exchange program with the US Army. He also claims to have been commissioned at the age of 16 if his birthday is correct.
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When I was in CENTCOM, we had a ton of foreign troops assigned.
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DakRadz

Quote from: SPD6696 on July 31, 2011, 03:05:43 AM
When I was in CENTCOM, we had a ton of foreign troops assigned.
Yes, but I'm guessing they had at least one ribbon from their home country and not ALL American ribbons?

PHall

Quote from: DakRadz on July 31, 2011, 03:12:21 AM
Quote from: SPD6696 on July 31, 2011, 03:05:43 AM
When I was in CENTCOM, we had a ton of foreign troops assigned.
Yes, but I'm guessing they had at least one ribbon from their home country and not ALL American ribbons?

Most foreign countries militaries tend to give out far fewer decorations then the US military does.
The US military, especially in the past 20 years or so, has gone decoration crazy.

The CyBorg is destroyed

^^Yes.  This image of a real RAAF officer shows that they don't have nearly the blingage that we do.


Air Marshal Geoff Brown, AM, RAAF

All of his blingage is Australian, except for the US Legion of Merit.

A/M Brown is the equivalent of a USAF Lieutenant General.

The "decorated" officer depicted above has no Australian/British Commonwealth medals, except for the RAAF Pilot's Wings.

Ironically, he is an officer (Wing Commander; Lt Col equivalent) in the RAAF Cadets, kind of their version of CAP (except that they wear almost the same uniform as the RAAF).
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capmaj

In reference to what PHall said.............  The best one has to be USAF's Basic Training ribbon, which enlisted get for graduating Basic. But if you didn't graduate Basic, you wouldn't be wearing ribbons or a uniform anyway!

Hawk200

Quote from: capmaj on July 31, 2011, 02:04:38 PM
The best one has to be USAF's Basic Training ribbon, which enlisted get for graduating Basic. But if you didn't graduate Basic, you wouldn't be wearing ribbons or a uniform anyway!
Yeah, I still get a kick out that one, too. What's really funny is that "There has to be some reward for graduating Basic!", but there was the general that did away with the Good Conduct Medal because "This is conduct to be expected." Talk about twisted logic.

You were expected to have graduated Basic if you show up at tech school, or a base. Kinda goes without saying, right? But keeping your nose clean for three years wasn't worth something because it was "expected"?. The fact that there are people that don't get the Good Conduct validates the award.

It's a wierd world at times.

Anyway, I'm still wondering what actually happened to the "Binford." >:D Was there any other action taken besides being escorted from the installation?

PHall

#51
It's not just the Air Force that has a ribbon for completing Basic Training.
The Army has the Army Service Ribbon (aka the Chicklets Ribbon).

Lucas F

He must have thought ribbon racks double as body armour.

arajca

Quote from: PHall on July 31, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
It's not just the Air Force that has a ribbon for completing Basic Training.
The Army has the Army Service Ribbon (aka the Chicklets Ribbon).
WIWAD, it was called the rainbow ribbon.

PHall

Quote from: arajca on July 31, 2011, 07:00:51 PM
Quote from: PHall on July 31, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
It's not just the Air Force that has a ribbon for completing Basic Training.
The Army has the Army Service Ribbon (aka the Chicklets Ribbon).
WIWAD, it was called the rainbow ribbon.

Chicklets is PC and doesn't get you into trouble with the EO folks. Plus they do hand them out like candy!

AirDX

Quote from: PHall on July 31, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
It's not just the Air Force that has a ribbon for completing Basic Training.
The Army has the Army Service Ribbon (aka the Chicklets Ribbon).

Negative.  The ASR is awarded upon the completion of a soldier's first MOS-producing course, i.e. basic + AIT.
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flyboy53

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Quote from: PHall on July 31, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
It's not just the Air Force that has a ribbon for completing Basic Training.
The Army has the Army Service Ribbon (aka the Chicklets Ribbon).

Actually, when the ribbon was created in 1985 there or abouts, it wasn't just meant to recognize completion of basic training, it was meant to recognize those individuals who joined the Air Force under the All Volunteer Forces Concept. Then everyone wanted to wear it, so the criteria go backed up to some point in the 1970s.

This ribbon, that those of us in the Air Force sometimes call the "Battle of Lackland" ribbon, is actually for all
AF members when they complete entry-level training, which means that if you go to basic and then the Academy, OTS or Medical Officer or Legal Officer orientation, you wear a device on the ribbon. I've seen a few of those in my career. In a way this also means that things like the Army Service Ribbon or AF Training Ribbon have a little more prestigue than the National Defense Service Medal. For that medal, you only have to serve one day of active duty....whether you make it through BMTS or not.

When I went through Lackland, there wasn't an AF Training Ribbon; only the BMTS Honor Grad Ribbon. I decided then why do I need a ribbon for BMTS so I personally opted to not strive to achieve it. There was only one awarded in our flight. Then over my career, I think I could count on two hands the number of people I met who earned it.

Why bust the AF for the Air Force Training Ribbon when the criteria for the Membership Award is so much less.

CAPC/officer125

Quote from: flyboy1 on August 01, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
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This ribbon, that those of us in the Air Force sometimes call the "Battle of Lackland" ribbon, is actually for all
AF members when they complete entry-level training, which means that if you go to basic and then the Academy, OTS or Medical Officer or Legal Officer orientation, you wear a device on the ribbon.
...snip...
Question: When would someone that goes through ROTC earn this ribbon? Just curious.
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SarDragon

Quote from: CAPC/officer125 on August 01, 2011, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on August 01, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
...snip...
This ribbon, that those of us in the Air Force sometimes call the "Battle of Lackland" ribbon, is actually for all
AF members when they complete entry-level training, which means that if you go to basic and then the Academy, OTS or Medical Officer or Legal Officer orientation, you wear a device on the ribbon.
...snip...
Question: When would someone that goes through ROTC earn this ribbon? Just curious.

Quote from: From Wikipedia, based on AFPC online articleThe Air Force Training Ribbon was authorized by the Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force on October 12, 1980. It is awarded to U.S. Air Force service members on completion of initial accession training after August 14, 1974. Initial accession training in USAF is defined as Basic Military Training (BMT) for enlisted personnel, Basic Cadet Training (BCT) at the United States Air Force Academy (USAFA), or commissioning through Air Force ROTC (AFROTC), Officer Training School (OTS) or other specialized USAF officer accession programs.
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SarDragon

Quote from: CAPC/officer125 on August 01, 2011, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on August 01, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
...snip...
This ribbon, that those of us in the Air Force sometimes call the "Battle of Lackland" ribbon, is actually for all
AF members when they complete entry-level training, which means that if you go to basic and then the Academy, OTS or Medical Officer or Legal Officer orientation, you wear a device on the ribbon.
...snip...
Question: When would someone that goes through ROTC earn this ribbon? Just curious.

Quote from: From Wikipedia, based on AFPC online articleThe Air Force Training Ribbon was authorized by the Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force on October 12, 1980. It is awarded to U.S. Air Force service members on completion of initial accession training after August 14, 1974. Initial accession training in USAF is defined as Basic Military Training (BMT) for enlisted personnel, Basic Cadet Training (BCT) at the United States Air Force Academy (USAFA), or commissioning through Air Force ROTC (AFROTC), Officer Training School (OTS) or other specialized USAF officer accession programs.

I'm guessing that the service record entry would be made at their first duty station.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret