ABU's???

[PHall]

Simple response: I have spoke to National about this. They will not even ask/consider ABUs untill the phase out of the USAF is completed. In other words, until 2012 there will be no mention of consideration for CAP to wear the ABUs. Anything you hear about us wearing ABUs prior to 2012 will just be a rumor.

Funny, GEN Courter said something totally different this last weekend. I think I'll go with what the General said.

And what she said is that the CAP-USAF/CC will send a request up the chain this week asking when we can expect to be authorized to wear the ABU.
The mandatory wear date for the Air Force is 1 Oct 2011. And the supply system is fully caught up with demand.
She expects to have an answer before the National Boards in August.

[jimmydeanno]

I really think that the supply "issue" isn't an issue at all.  I think that there is an assumption from the AF higher ups that authorizing CAP to wear ABUs will result in 60K+ sets (people will buy more than one set) flying off the MCSS shelves on day 1, creating some sort of shortage that will result in their Airmen being unable to replace their uniforms.

In reality, it'll be a slow phase in anyway as most units aren't near an MCSS, some will purchase from online vendors, etc.

[PHall]

The "supply issue" was one of the reasons why the Air Force asked us to wait.
And during the first couple of years of the ABU conversion there were some major supply issues.
Congress inserted a "buy American" clause in the DoD Authorization bill which resulted in a couple of suppliers being decertified.
So yeah, for awhile there were shortages in the more popular sizes.

[NCRblues]

The "supply issue" was one of the reasons why the Air Force asked us to wait.
And during the first couple of years of the ABU conversion there were some major supply issues.
Congress inserted a "buy American" clause in the DoD Authorization bill which resulted in a couple of suppliers being decertified.
So yeah, for awhile there were shortages in the more popular sizes.

It was in such short supply i literally played tug O' war with a e-7 as an e-4 on lackland for pants in my size.... 

[HGjunkie]

It was in such short supply i literally played tug O' war with a e-7 as an e-4 on lackland for pants in my size.... 

Should have gotten a video. 

[Майор Хаткевич]

The "supply issue" was one of the reasons why the Air Force asked us to wait.
And during the first couple of years of the ABU conversion there were some major supply issues.
Congress inserted a "buy American" clause in the DoD Authorization bill which resulted in a couple of suppliers being decertified.
So yeah, for awhile there were shortages in the more popular sizes.

It was in such short supply i literally played tug O' war with a e-7 as an e-4 on lackland for pants in my size.... 

Who won!?

[NCRblues]

The "supply issue" was one of the reasons why the Air Force asked us to wait.
And during the first couple of years of the ABU conversion there were some major supply issues.
Congress inserted a "buy American" clause in the DoD Authorization bill which resulted in a couple of suppliers being decertified.
So yeah, for awhile there were shortages in the more popular sizes.

It was in such short supply i literally played tug O' war with a e-7 as an e-4 on lackland for pants in my size.... 

Who won!?

We pulled back and forth to a standstill... then he pulled rank..... 

I was ANGRY...i had the top, undershirts, boots, and abu colors name tapes...but no dang pants.... 

[Eclipse]

Are you guys still talking about this?

I already told you, CAP will never get ABU's....

[HGjunkie]

I was ANGRY...i had the top, undershirts, boots, and abu colors name tapes...but no dang pants.... 

You should have shown up to work wearing everything but the pants and put long-johns on... 

[AngelWings]

Are you guys still talking about this?

I already told you, CAP will never get ABU's....

Unoptomistic I see... Come in here and kill all of our fun  :clap: 

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Are you guys still talking about this?

I already told you, CAP will never get ABU's....

Unoptomistic I see... Come in here and kill all of our fun  :clap: 

Not unoptimistic...just realistic.  I sure don't have an expected place in my uniform closet for a set of ABU's with CAP insignia.

[sab163]

if it happens then it happens, and if it don't then it don't.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

if it happens then it happens, and if it don't then it don't.

That's about as good as I could put it.

[Майор Хаткевич]

if it happens then it happens, and if it don't then it don't.

The problem is, we'll look like a MESS during the transition. And if we start getting them say...2012, and it's phased OUT by 2016 for a DoD outfit...what a mess that will be...

[sab163]

The problem is, we'll look like a MESS during the transition. And if we start getting them say...2012, and it's phased OUT by 2016 for a DoD outfit...what a mess that will be...
[/quote]

Should we get them and they are phased out, we could keep them as an alt uniform instead of the BBDUs

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

The problem is, we'll look like a MESS during the transition. And if we start getting them say...2012, and it's phased OUT by 2016 for a DoD outfit...what a mess that will be...

I'm going to wait for something in writing from the chaps/chapesses with egg on their caps before I lay any money out.

I'm doubly conscious of that since the CSU phase-out fiasco.

[Майор Хаткевич]

The problem is, we'll look like a MESS during the transition. And if we start getting them say...2012, and it's phased OUT by 2016 for a DoD outfit...what a mess that will be...

Should we get them and they are phased out, we could keep them as an alt uniform instead of the BBDUs


From what supply? Even less companies produce ABUs than did BDUs...

[NM SAR]

in the unlikely event that they do show up for CAP, I'm waiting for the drop-dead must-wear-by date.....those things are expensive

[davidsinn]

in the unlikely event that they do show up for CAP, I'm waiting for the drop-dead must-wear-by date.....those things are expensive

I'm not going to worry about it. I'll just keep wearing my BBDU and hope they let us wear navy blue insignia someday.

[indygreg]

in the unlikely event that they do show up for CAP, I'm waiting for the drop-dead must-wear-by date.....those things are expensive

I'm not going to worry about it. I'll just keep wearing my BBDU and hope they let us wear navy blue insignia someday.

Please let that happen.  That  looks so much better than the ultramarine blue.