Homeland Security question???

[usafcap1]

Im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. So Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.
I have a few questions re Homeland Security. What do they do? What kinds of missions and activities does HS do?

[Eclipse]

HS?

[Al Sayre]

I think he's asking about Homeland Security... If that's the case,[lmgtfy]Department of Homeland Security[/lmgtfy].

I have no idea what kind of papers a Cadet would be signing for them...

If he is talking about the OP-Sec non-disclosure agreement, you have to sign it before you can find out

[usafcap1]

HS?

homeland security

[lordmonar]

Okay.....What HS paperwork are you talking about signing?

If you are talking about the OPSEC training.....then all you are signing is that you have read, understand and agree to abide by the OPSEC policy.

[usafcap1]

I think he's asking about Homeland Security... If that's the case,[lmgtfy]Department of Homeland Security[/lmgtfy].

I have no idea what kind of papers a Cadet would be signing for them...

If he is talking about the OP-Sec non-disclosure agreement, you have to sign it before you can find out

im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. so Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

[Eclipse]

im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. so Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

The term is Senior "Member", not all are officers and "officer" is not the generic.

As to HLS, don't expect to be set on fire with our involvement, especially as a new senior.

[usafcap1]

im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. so Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

The term is Senior "Member", not all are officers and "officer" is not the generic.

ok. well over here in PCR the new term is Senior Officer for all seniors

[EMT-83]

You get to make up your own titles? Cool.

[usafcap1]

im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. so Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

The term is Senior "Member", not all are officers and "officer" is not the generic.

As to HLS, don't expect to be set on fire with our involvement, especially as a new senior.

and theres no such thing as a cadet senior officer that would just be cadet officer. nhq dropped the member of senior member and changed it to officer a few months ago. there reason for the change and i quote "It sounds better". my sqdrn gets daily cap alerts from nhq for everything. i.e. regs, mans, terms, everything. i could go on and on but i don't feel like it tonight. and is that the only thing you read in my post?

[usafcap1]

You get to make up your own titles? Cool.

as far as i know a senior member is someone whos wears just cap cutouts.

[spacecommand]

If you mean what kind of missions does CAP do that is categorized as Homeland Security, there are many different types of missions that CAP does.  Many of them flying type missions (one example mission is being target practice for the Air Force lol ) .  That's just an example but there are probably other things that are characterized as "Homeland security".   

There's a ribbon for it, the criteria is listed as:

>>Homeland Security Ribbon. Awarded for participation in ten actual Homeland Security sorties as defined by the tasking organization as being in the interest of the security and/or defense of the nation. <<

Plans and goals depends on what you want to be in CAP as a senior member.  Cadet Programs? Aerospace Educator?  Pilot?

[JetDriver777]

Just an observation.  Why is it that when a fairly new CAPTalker asks a simple question everyone goes crazy and picks apart every little thing they said?

why don't you just help the poor guy? he asked a question, and you make him sound like a complete fool.  Hes new.  help him!

This is the third or forth time this week...i don't think fellow CAP Talkers appreciate it.

[usafcap1]

If you mean what kind of missions does CAP do that is categorized as Homeland Security, there are many different types of missions that CAP does.  Many of them flying type missions (one example mission is being target practice for the Air Force lol ) .  That's just an example but there are probably other things that are characterized as "Homeland security".   

There's a ribbon for it, the criteria is listed as:

>>Homeland Security Ribbon. Awarded for participation in ten actual Homeland Security sorties as defined by the tasking organization as being in the interest of the security and/or defense of the nation. <<

Plans and goals depends on what you want to be in CAP as a senior member.  Cadet Programs? Aerospace Educator?  Pilot?

Homeland Security officer

[spacecommand]

Knowledge base:

>>
Homeland Security Officer is not a CAP specialty currently included in CAPR 20-1 but duties would overlap with several emergency services positions. If there is a need for this position to fit unique mission requirements, wing or region commanders may create a position and job description for a Homeland Security Officer.
<<

I think a similar path would going down the Emergency Services path and working as the unit's ES or Assistant ES officer if you already have one.

Also as a cadet turned Senior member, you could also be a great asset in assisting the senior members with Cadet Programs operations, so trying out for a Cadet Programs officer path is something you might want to consider as well. 

[Eclipse]

Just an observation.  Why is it that when a fairly new CAPTalker asks a simple question everyone goes crazy and picks apart every little thing they said?

For starters, it is probably the first time they've been exposed to the proper terminology, best to correct things day 1.

[Eclipse]

well over here in PCR the new term is Senior Officer for all seniors

That's not "new" - HWSRN made an off-handed comment that the generic for adults in CAP should be "officers" (vs. "seniors"), mainly because of
some misguided concern about the connotation of the term.

That idea creeped into a few memos, and before yo know it people were treating it as official.  NHQ specifically disavowed it several years ago.

A "Senior Officer" is someone of experience and high-level authority within a given organization - hardly appropriate as a generic term for
our adult members, or even as a generic.

[EMT-83]

In my volunteer fire department, a "Senior Officer" is unofficially a captain or higher.

For some time, I was referred to as the "Senior Captain" out of respect for seniority. It made me feel more like a "Senior Citizen" every time I heard it!

[PHall]

im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. so Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

The term is Senior "Member", not all are officers and "officer" is not the generic.

ok. well over here in PCR the new term is Senior Officer for all seniors

I must have missed the memo on that because I'm in PCR, CAWG to be exact, and I've heard/seen nothing on this subject.
Please cite your source.

[JetDriver777]

ok eclipse... your right.  So make the new guy feel like an [Filter Subversion] !   Good job!

[lordmonar]

im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. so Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

The term is Senior "Member", not all are officers and "officer" is not the generic.

ok. well over here in PCR the new term is Senior Officer for all seniors

Really?  I'm in PCR.....and we're senior members.

I would stop while I ahead.....you have made seveal terminology errors in just a handful of posts......avoid the dog pile...say Oh Sorry and press on.

[PHall]

ok eclipse... your right.  So make the new guy feel like an A$$ !   Good job!

You know, circumventing the profanity filter is NOT the way to make friends with the Mods.

[spacecommand]

Yeah...back on track..

I don't think "Homeland Security Officer" is something that a young new senior member is probably going to get much work in, that's if your wing has the position at all, generally it's not a local unit position, and as I mentioned in my other post not one of the specialty tracks you can follow.  The positions that do exist tend to be Wing level assignments with personnel who have experience in the area, though YMMV depending on the wing politics.

For a local unit position, I would research into Emergency Services Officer as something you could do in the local level, as well as Cadet Programs.

[Flying Pig]

CAP Homeland Security?  Hmmmm....   I think youve been entranced by a cool title.  What are these plans and goals you are looking at writing?  Im my opinion, having a 20 yr old Homeland Security Officer wouldnt be a good idea.  Your not going to be taken seriously without some type of background.   Do you have a background in HS?  Anything related to it?  BEing that your a cadet I am assuming not.  I dont know what types of missions WAWG does for Homeland Security.

What you need to do is find out who handles that in your area, hook up with them and see if they need some type of assistant.  But at your age, if WA is active with Homeland Security its going to be way over your head.  So getting in and just being allowed to watch for a few years would be the best.  And while your watching, look into degree programs in Homeland Security.  What are your plans for life?  Anything related to the military, LE or EMS?  With positions like this, you need to bring something to the table.

[usafcap1]

CAP Homeland Security?  Hmmmm....   I think youve been entranced by a cool title.  What are these plans and goals you are looking at writing?  Im my opinion, having a 20 yr old Homeland Security Officer wouldnt be a good idea.  Your not going to be taken seriously without some type of background.   Do you have a background in HS?  Anything related to it?  BEing that your a cadet I am assuming not.  I dont know what types of missions WAWG does for Homeland Security.

What you need to do is find out who handles that in your area, hook up with them and see if they need some type of assistant.  But at your age, if WA is active with Homeland Security its going to be way over your head.  So getting in and just being allowed to watch for a few years would be the best.  And while your watching, look into degree programs in Homeland Security.  What are your plans for life?  Anything related to the military, LE or EMS?  With positions like this, you need to bring something to the table.

that makes sense. you answered my question. thank you

[wacapgh]

Im turning 20 in a few weeks so im getting ready to be a senior officer. So Im writing up my plans and goals. I only have a year left.

Advance as far as you can in the Cadet program. The Mitchell, Earhart, and Spaatz Awards have significant advantages for cadets who continue on as senior members.

Earning the Mitchell you qualify to have a major portion of the senior Level 1 training credited and can be appointed as a Second Lieutenant without waiting the 6 months that a non-prior cadet has to wait.

With your commander's recommendtation, the Earhart can get you a Technician Level rating for Cadet Programs in the senior speciality training area. And you are eligible for appointment to First Lieutenant, after completing Level 1, 18 months sooner than a non-cadet (12 months as a Second Lieutenant + 6 months as a member without grade).

In that 18 months, you could attend Squadron Leadership School (the Ft. Vancouver squadron puts on an excellent program) and complete the online CAP Officer Basic Course. Complete your Level 2 training and your commander could recommend you for promotion to Captain.

If you have a chance for the Spaatz, GO For it! In addtion to earning something few CAP members have acheived, you can be appointed as a Captain and receive a Senior rating in Cadet Programs.

[Thrashed]

CAP involvement with HLS depends on location. I'm sure the DC area gets to do more than my wing. I have a badge in my wallet with HLS on it and I do nothing in CAP relating to HLS missions.