PT Test

Started by TheGooseLover, October 15, 2015, 08:33:49 PM

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TheGooseLover

Thanks all for contributing your knowledge + opinion to this article.. Tonight is PT. I'm going to give the push-ups/sit-ups my all... I'm going to walk the mile as quickly as possible so I can be motivational to my flight! Thanks all!
C/Capt. Riley M. Hodge
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TheSkyHornet

Quote from: Caponly101 on October 20, 2015, 02:54:13 PM
Thanks all for contributing your knowledge + opinion to this article.. Tonight is PT. I'm going to give the push-ups/sit-ups my all... I'm going to walk the mile as quickly as possible so I can be motivational to my flight! Thanks all!

Did you ever talk with a doctor and/or the Deputy Commander for Cadets about this?


TheGooseLover

Im talking to the DCC tonight
C/Capt. Riley M. Hodge
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A.Member

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Quote from: Caponly101 on October 20, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
Im talking to the DCC tonight
Not sure why you're not understanding this but you need to talk to your doctor and get a medical evaluation!  That's where you start.

Your CDC (or DCC as you wrote it) is NOT your doctor and really has nothing to say about it.  Only a medical doctor can provide a medical evaluation.   If you really have asthma, it's a serious issue.  You say you have "mild asthma".  Is this self diagnosed or did you actually see a doctor in the past?   Did you note asthma when you initially reported your PT category?

A medical doctor will note any medical restrictions, particularly asthma related. 

Note: if restrictions are made for asthma, this diagnosis will be permanent...and by permanent, I mean it will follow you for life, including likely disqualification for later military service.  Again, this is serious, treat it as such.


 

"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

TheGooseLover

I can't see a doctor before tonight, I meant I'm asking my DCC if I can sit out tonight, sorry for confusion. I did note asthma, but in the summer I ran a 8:30 mile and felt fine. It's not self diagnosed. My Dr. Says I have EIA, Excercise Induced Asthma.
C/Capt. Riley M. Hodge
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Quote from: Caponly101 on October 20, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
I can't see a doctor before tonight, I meant I'm asking my DCC if I can sit out tonight, sorry for confusion. I did note asthma, but in the summer I ran a 8:30 mile and felt fine. It's not self diagnosed. My Dr. Says I have EIA, Excercise Induced Asthma.
Doesn't matter how fast/slow you ran or how you felt.  When did you see the doctor and when was the diagnosis made?  Were you given a spirometry test when you saw your doc?  Did the doctor impose restrictions on your activities (if you're in an unrestricted PT category (CAT I), you're expected to perform as such)?  Is the doctor aware of your physical activities?  This is the conversation you need to have - now.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

TheSkyHornet

Just to clarify....

CDC = Deputy Commander for Cadets (senior member)
C/DCC = Cadet Deputy Commander (cadet)

I want to make it so you understand the problem here....
CAP is liable for you, meaning adults are responsible for your safety and protection. If there is something you are not telling them, and they are unaware of this, you could be putting them in a position where they are going to permit you to perform an activity that may have a a severe safety concern if something were to happen to you, and if it does, they may not be able to adequately help you in time.

I recommend that you simply call your CDC (skip the chain of command) and tell them that you plan on coming to the meeting but that you need to sit out because you have a medical condition that you are worried about which may affect your health and safety during PT, and that it may or may not be listed on any paperwork with the squadron. Explain to him (or her) your file should say asthma, but it would be best to take a Cadet Physical Fitness Waiver from CAPP 52-18 to your doctor before continuing to participate in PT or any other rigorous physical activity.

This was brought to my attention at my own squadron regarding a similar situation, and our immediate reaction was "You aren't doing PT, and you're not going to do PT until you see a doctor and we know where you are physically." It doesn't mean you can't participate in the classroom, but I would refuse to put you out on the track until I knew from a medical expert what they thought you were capable of.

Be up front with your doctor when it comes time to sit down and talk about it. Explain to him (or her) that you would really like to continue to participate in PT, and that you have worked hard to get better at it, but you need to know what your actual physical limitations should be when it comes to participating in PT, which includes a mile-long run, a minute of sit ups, and a minute of push-ups, plus a seated sit-and-reach. Explain how you think you perform physically, but be honest about how you feel (if you ever have shortness of breath, need an inhaler, or get chest pains). He can't determine what your condition is if you don't tell them honestly.

I have two CAT IV cadets prohibited from certain physical activities. Possibly adding a third. It's not a big deal to say "You shouldn't be doing this" and it doesn't affect their CAP career. But it can affect their health, and life, if they continue and we don't know about it, or worse, we do know and we don't act responsibly.

THRAWN

Good advice. Might want to get your parents/guardians into the OODA loop. What is their input? They, and your doctor need to be included in this NOW. The worst experience of not only my CAP life, but my life in general was watching a cadet get carted off to the hospital over an underreported/unreported medical condition. Don't do something stupid.
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LSThiker

Quote from: TheSkyHornet on October 20, 2015, 08:46:06 PM
Just to clarify....

CDC = Deputy Commander for Cadets (senior member)
C/DCC = Cadet Deputy Commander (cadet)

No.  CD is the office symbol for the Deputy Commander.  Therefore, Cadet Deputy Commander would be C/CD and not C/DCC. 

TheSkyHornet

Quote from: LSThiker on October 20, 2015, 08:53:29 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on October 20, 2015, 08:46:06 PM
Just to clarify....

CDC = Deputy Commander for Cadets (senior member)
C/DCC = Cadet Deputy Commander (cadet)

No.  CD is the office symbol for the Deputy Commander.  Therefore, Cadet Deputy Commander would be C/CD and not C/DCC.

You're correct. I did not proof read what I wrote. Ironic that I was making a statement about proper abbreviations and didn't even check my own work. My bad.   :-\

*hangs head lowly in shame*