Bravo Zulu, and others

[Al Sayre]

Don't go throwing me under the bus...

[SARMedTech]

Don't go throwing me under the bus...

Who threw you under the bus, Captain?

[Al Sayre]

photogpilot "... Al sez so"  I didn't say nothing!

[jimmydeanno]

I didn't say nothing!

So you said something?

[RogueLeader]

Maybe we can just turn Capt Wedley loose on them.

From another topic, but who is Capt. Wedley?

[MIKE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSyaqVDnAUA

[RogueLeader]

ah I see. . .  CPPT issues anyone?

[Skyray]

I spent ten years in the Naval Service and never heard the term BRAVO ZULU.  Then, in 1995, after a nasty divorce from the CAP, I joined the Coast Guard Auxiliary and one of the pro words that I had to learn along with its meaning and derivation, was Bravo Zulu, which roughly corresponded to the old "Well Done" that I was accustomed to.  It is in every day use in the Coast Guard, but it was not something I was required to learn as a Midshipman in 1957-58.  I am curious as to whether it is a recent addition to the lexicon or simply a variation of culture between the Brown Shoe and Black Shoe Navy.  We Brown Shoes rarely communicated with flag hoists, although we were required to know them.

[SarDragon]

I heard it all the time WIWOAD (1969-1989), from all three segments - brown shoes, black shoes, and bubble heads. I think the most predominate use was by the black shoe officers, though.

[RogueLeader]

What's the dif between brown/black shoes?  Does Bubble heads mean pilots or divers?

[SarDragon]

Black shoes - surface Navy
Brown shoes - aviation Navy
Bubbleheads - submarine Navy

The shoe distinction has blurred over the years, since all chiefs and officers can wear brown shoes now, but the community distinctions remain strong.

[Al Sayre]

I spent ten years in the Naval Service and never heard the term BRAVO ZULU.  Then, in 1995, after a nasty divorce from the CAP, I joined the Coast Guard Auxiliary and one of the pro words that I had to learn along with its meaning and derivation, was Bravo Zulu, which roughly corresponded to the old "Well Done" that I was accustomed to.  It is in every day use in the Coast Guard, but it was not something I was required to learn as a Midshipman in 1957-58.  I am curious as to whether it is a recent addition to the lexicon or simply a variation of culture between the Brown Shoe and Black Shoe Navy.  We Brown Shoes rarely communicated with flag hoists, although we were required to know them.

I was an AD Squid (AT1) from 82-89.  The squadron received a daily news summary that included a list of BZ's for the the various USN contingents/personnel that did something notable, so it's not that new...

[SARMedTech]

Did anyone read the post I made about the International Code of Signals adopting Bravo Zulu,among others, for both flight and sea service use in 1949?  I thought that would have "dispelled the mystery" of how it found its way into cloud jockey parlance.

[SarDragon]

Something about horses and water?

[Skyray]

Al Sayre:

I was an AD Squid (AT1) from 82-89.  The squadron received a daily news summary that included a list of BZ's for the the various USN contingents/personnel that did something notable, so it's not that new...

Thanks, Al.  That answers my question, it's a time domain thing.  By 1982 I was winding up a career as an airline pilot.  Sounds like the brass needed something to replace the time worn "Well Done" and used the flag hoist.  It is ubictious in the Coast Guard today.

[Al Sayre]

Anytime,  I am often considered as posessing a wealth of otherwise useless information...

[Skyray]

Anytime,  I am often considered as posessing a wealth of otherwise useless information...

We have a lot in common in addition to roots in Mississippi.  My wife keeps threatening to sign me up for "Jeopardy."  Where are you from in Mississippi--I consider T.J Fortune one of my early mentors in CAP.

[Al Sayre]

I'm originally from Florida, but I live in Vicksburg and work in Port Gibson.

[Skyray]

I'm originally from Florida, but I live in Vicksburg and work in Port Gibson.

Told you we had a lot in common.  I'm originally from Cleveland, MS, but I live in Palmetto Bay, Florida and work (such as it is) on Causeway Island (Miami Beach).  My daughter went to SMU and we would stop at Vicksburg on the trips back and forth.  I am of an age where I get into the Park free and I never could pass up a bargain.

[Al Sayre]

Shoot me a pm next time you are coming up this way, I'll buy the 1st round.