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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: OldGuy on July 07, 2019, 03:28:47 AM

Title: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: OldGuy on July 07, 2019, 03:28:47 AM
A Civil Air Patrol cadet died from serious injuries Saturday afternoon when the plane she was piloting crash-landed on the Ole Miss Golf Course in Oxford, Mississippi.

The accident occurred about 3:15 p.m. on the 17th hole, not far from the University-Oxford Airport where the young woman was headed as part of training to receive her private pilot certificate.

She was airlifted to a Memphis-area trauma center, where she passed away.

"Right now our focus is on the cadet's family and the members of her local squadron," said Maj Gen Mark Smith, CAP national commander and CEO. "This is a tragic accident and we are praying for peace and comfort for everyone involved. We are working with the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration to determine what caused the crash."

@capnhq #civilairpatrol #totalforce More at - https://www.wtva.com/content/news/Plane-crash-at-Oxford-Golf-Course-512305552.html
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: OldGuy on July 07, 2019, 03:32:57 AM
More at https://wreg.com/2019/07/06/woman-injured-in-plane-crash-on-ole-miss-golf-course/?fbclid=IwAR1RazrkcxU0Ff6qlP2ODL2xXsYcyYM13jgSZZQkZfUSbpoYEJItBzPZnBs
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: CFToaster on July 07, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
Is anyone else going to conduct a mini CISD and/or rumor control session with their cadets? I'm suggesting our squadron do so.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: NIN on July 07, 2019, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: CFToaster on July 07, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
Is anyone else going to conduct a mini CISD and/or rumor control session with their cadets? I'm suggesting our squadron do so.
Unless you're in possession of all the facts, a 'rumor control session" isn't likely to do much more than contribute to the rumor mill. Have answers about CAP flight ops and safety ready for concerned parents and leave it at that for now.

Don't speculate, assume or guess as to cause.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: Eclipse on July 07, 2019, 05:11:30 PM
+1 - this doesn't need to be "headed off", it's tragic, that's enough already without it being turned into a "thing".

Answer direct questions succinctly and move on.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: OldGuy on July 07, 2019, 06:10:38 PM
What NIN and Eclipse said, +1,000!

Prayers for the young lady and her family and wingmates.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: OldGuy on July 07, 2019, 10:18:46 PM
More coverage - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/790353/beauty-queen-killed-in-plane-crash-starkville-lake-little-mississippi-golf-course
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: OldGuy on July 08, 2019, 02:56:18 AM
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Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: TheSkyHornet on July 08, 2019, 03:10:12 AM
CISD/CISM debriefs with secondary victims are designed to combat PTSD, and they're fairly benign/ineffective at doing so. Most cadets are not paramedics or firefighters; their exposure to this accident are either through social media or word-of-mouth.

They should be done within 72 hours after the event and would probably be very non-useful in this type of situation, particularly when the events of what occurred and cause are unknown to most.

You're probably better of conducting a conversation where you can have people in the room ask questions about what happened, or offer their knowledge/understanding of what happened—to be corrected/clarified in that setting—once you have those details available.

CISD/CISM should be conducted by experienced professionals, such as therapists or chaplains; and you need to distinguish whether you're providing medical therapy or helping someone cope with a tragedy. Don't confuse a teacher talking to their class with providing organized, methodical psychological counseling.

Quote from: NIN on July 07, 2019, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: CFToaster on July 07, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
Is anyone else going to conduct a mini CISD and/or rumor control session with their cadets? I'm suggesting our squadron do so.
Unless you're in possession of all the facts, a 'rumor control session" isn't likely to do much more than contribute to the rumor mill. Have answers about CAP flight ops and safety ready for concerned parents and leave it at that for now.

Don't speculate, assume or guess as to cause.

I'm with Nin here. Let's not add to the rumor mill. And let's not disclose unofficial information unless it's formally released by the family or law enforcement.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: OldGuy on July 08, 2019, 03:17:12 AM
I suggest moving this to Final Salute.

AN AIRMAN'S PRAYER.                 

Almighty and all-present Power,
Short is the prayer I make to Thee,
I do not ask in battle hour
For any shield to cover me.

The vast unalterable way
From which the stars do not depart
May not be turned aside to stay
The bullet flying to my heart.

I ask no help to strike my foe,
I seek no petty victory here,
The enemy I hate, I know
To Thee is also dear.

But this I pray, be at my side
When death is drawing through the sky,
Almighty God, who also died
Teach me the way that I should die.

Hugh Brodie.


She died as a pilot, one of our pilots. May God carry her on wings of angels to His side and cherish her for eternity.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: SarDragon on July 08, 2019, 04:27:47 AM
Temporarily locked.
Title: Re: Miss. Crash-Landing Fatally Injures Cadet Pilot
Post by: CAP9907 on July 08, 2019, 05:35:53 AM
Concur Sir

~9907