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Started by IceNine, September 04, 2007, 02:51:53 AM

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IceNine

Ok,
  I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but for the life of me I can't find it...

What is the paragraph that is supposed to be in the Remarks section of the 2A?

And before you mention it this is a promotion from TFO-Capt so I cannot do it through E-services.
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

PHall

For starters, it's the CAP Form 2. Form 2's promote and demote you, 2a's do pretty much everything else.

And you need to put down the following.

Date of birth. Have to be 21 years old.
Statement that the member is a High School graduate or equivalent.
Statement that the member is reccomended for promotion by the unit commander.

Pylon

Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

IceNine

I've got that... This is a special case, and I am promoting.

Here is the background,

I was a C/Capt. which got me TFO because I transitioned before my 21st

On my 21st I hadn't completed AFIADL 13 so I got 1Lt.

Now I am finished with req's for captain BUT e-services only shows time in grade since January (FO promotion's/time in grade is not tracked at nationals)

SO I must do a 2A, but I need the proper terminology for the remarks section.

There used to be a specific paragraph that had to be in there
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

RogueLeader

Just a note, you must have a total TIG of 18 months as TFO and 1st Lt to get captain.  Just because you completed AFIADL 13, that does not mean you can promote to Capt.  If that is the case, I would put in the remarks:
Quote
Promoted to TFO on XXX then subsequently promoted to 1 Lt on YYY.  See attached CAPF 2A.
Just be sure that all the paperwork is filled out and the total TIG adds to 18 months.  if you don't, it will be returned.
WYWG DP

GRW 3340

IceNine

I understand the promotion process, I've got over 3 years TIG,

I've completed I've got level II, just need CLC for level III

I just need the promotion writing for Remarks.

Maybe I'm going crazy but I swear there used to be a specific paragraph that Nat's looked for.

Like Lt. X has completed all requirements....  I just don't remember how it went
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

Al Sayre

Try this:  On 35 Jancember 3008, 1st Lt X completed 18 months service in the grades of TFO and 1st Lt.  1st Lt X has completed Senior Member Professional Development Training through Level 2.  Therefore, having completed the requirements for promotion to the grade of Captain in accordance with the specifications in CAPR 35-5 Sections B.11.a and B.11.b (Figure 2), 1st Lt X is hereby recommended for promotion to the grade of Captain.

Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

IceNine

"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

JC004

wait...Capt = 18 months as 1st Lt or SFO (or combination thereof)

Al Sayre

You're right, my bad for not reading carefully, but he said he has 3 yrs TIG, so I assumed (bad idea) that covers the 18 mos as 1st Lt.
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

JC004

If there's a loophole here, other than a special promotion from the Region CC, I'd like to know.  I had a similar deal, except the reason I didn't have my AFIADL 13 was because wing had a huge issue processing AFIADL paperwork. (this was before the new system)  >:(

Al Sayre

You can always take on the headaches of Squadron Commander for a year... ;D
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

JC004

Quote from: Al Sayre on September 04, 2007, 06:28:50 AM
You can always take on the headaches of Squadron Commander for a year... ;D

No use.  Three reasons: 1. I wouldn't be able to devote adequate time to my takeover of CAP, 2. I'd be eligible for a duty performance Captain before the year was up, 3. I would soooo show up all the other units   >:D

IceNine

No loopholes I just had all of the other requirements but hadn't passed ECI13
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

dwb

Your time as a TFO does not, I repeat, NOT count towards the 18 months required for a duty performance promotion to Captain.

You have to be a 1st Lt for the full 18 months.

IceNine

Nice try buckwheat

BUT 35-5.11.B is singing a different tune

Get a site if you want me to consider what you are spewing

Promotion Minimum
To Skill Level I Time-In-Grade
2d Lt Level 1 6 months as senior member
1st Lt Tech Rating 12 months as 2d Lt or TFO (Specialty Tract) (or combination thereof)
Captain Level II 18 months as 1st Lt or SFO
(or combination thereof)

Major Level III 3 years as Captain
Lt Col Level IV 4 years as Major
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

dwb

CAPR 50-17, Attachment 1.

Try reading the regulation about senior member promotions when asking questions about senior member promotions.

Pylon

Quote from: mfd1506 on September 04, 2007, 05:19:36 PM
Nice try buckwheat

BUT 35-5.11.B is singing a different tune

Get a site if you want me to consider what you are spewing

Promotion Minimum
To Skill Level I Time-In-Grade
2d Lt Level 1 6 months as senior member
1st Lt Tech Rating 12 months as 2d Lt or TFO (Specialty Tract) (or combination thereof)
Captain Level II 18 months as 1st Lt or SFO
(or combination thereof)

Major Level III 3 years as Captain
Lt Col Level IV 4 years as Major

Dan is right.  If you look at the table in CAPR 35-5, 11, b. for promotion to Captain, that line shows combination of 18 months as a 1st Lt and/or SFO.  Time as a TFO only counts towards TIG towards duty performance promotions to 1st Lt, not Captain.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

dwb

By the by, the only reason I know this is because I went through the same thing.  Eaker cadet, went s'member a couple months early, then had to serve the full 18 months as a 1st Lt before I was eligible for promotion to Capt.

Pylon also went through the same thing, although he unfortunately had to wait a little longer than 18 months to make Capt.

Still, you could be a tad more respectful there, buckwheat...

IceNine

TFO equals 1Lt..., I was a TFO because I was a Earhart

SFO=Captain

So, what you are saying makes no sense

33.3.c

"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4