Is CAP Failing Miserably?

Chris Jacobs · November 29, 2005, 11:25:32 PM

OK its not EAA, i was having what i like to call a "brain fart". Harrison Ford is the "chairman" of the EAA Young Eagles program. still, the point i was trying to show was that if we were to be in the national spot light, even if only for a few days it would help.

flyguy06 · November 30, 2005, 01:50:20 PM

I was looking at my typing and you guys are right. My typing can suck sometimes. Sorry about that. I only get 30 mins on the internet so Itry and make the most of it. I will try and fine tune a little better

Eclipse · November 30, 2005, 05:47:45 PM

I'll agree that some good press can get the phones ringing, and bring people to
you, but if nothing is happening when they show up, they won't stay long.

The grapvine is a better recruiting tool, as an active member is apt to recruit friends who are of a similiar mindset, which can reduce some of the initial attrition.

flyguy06 · November 30, 2005, 06:27:00 PM

I always looked at it as a cathh 22 situation. You wont get members without activities, but then you cant have activities without members.

Its crazy when you plan a big activity and have three people show up. What do you do?

Matt · November 30, 2005, 07:07:13 PM

Well, first you get on the phone and find out where in the hell people are. Secondly, bow head in shame. Thirdly, drink a crapload of coffee. Four: Call in reinforcements and attempt to make calls, even if you have to call other unit CC's of whom you're friends with and such, and ask if they have anyone available. Fifth, and last but not least, Pray that you can pull off the impossible with next to nothing, because if you can, then you win.

Cam89 · December 01, 2005, 12:21:08 AM

Well I think that one we need to stop and think how did we find out about CAP and also what can we do to make CAP seem interesting. You can also have the parents come and join. Put it out as a family oriented activity. Also we could havve a movie about CAP and what we do. Put it out so that people can buy it or rent it. That is what I think will help with recruiting.

thefischNX01 · December 01, 2005, 03:39:51 AM

I'd write the script for that....who'd produce it though? $:-\$

Matt · December 01, 2005, 05:36:27 AM

Well, I have a contact w/ a USAF Historian who used to work with the news media at the Pentagon... Perhaps the AF may help, can only benefit them in the long run, and well, it's not like they don't have the money on paper.

thefischNX01 · December 01, 2005, 01:48:26 PM

Recently the Undersecretary of the Air Force or something gave a press conferance and directly mentioned the Civil Air Patrol as a valuable organization that can be called upon in a crisis. However, the meeting was about closing the bases so of course that made the news $:-\$

Cam89 · December 02, 2005, 11:25:26 PM

Well some cadets may have a family friend who could produce the movie. It's all about the connections. Just ask around and you will find the people you need to make the movie.

MIKE · December 03, 2005, 12:13:03 AM

Quote from: Cam89 on December 02, 2005, 11:25:26 PM
Well some cadets may have a family friend who could produce the movie. It's all about the connections. Just ask around and you will find the people you need to make the movie.

I have a degree in Radio and Television Production and Broadcasting that I'm not using at the moment... Somebody has to provide the gear and talent though.

thefischNX01 · December 03, 2005, 12:33:02 AM

I did some acting once....

But in all seriousness, are we really considering making a movie? Who would distribute it? Where would we film it? Who would be the actors? Although it would make a good story, CAP in the Second World War, it's much easier to make and plot an advertising campaign, so I suggest we drop the whole movie thing for right now...

SarDragon · December 03, 2005, 04:58:40 AM

What is an ad but a 30 or 60 second movie with a message? The same skills and equipment are needed.

thefischNX01 · December 08, 2005, 10:12:50 PM

Yeah...but a lot less money, and less talent required.

Cam89 · December 09, 2005, 12:09:06 AM

You don't need talent. We just need to show cadets drilling and learning. That taked no talent at all. It really doesn't have to be perfect. Just be yourself.

MIKE · December 09, 2005, 12:20:01 AM

Quote from: Cam89 on December 09, 2005, 12:09:06 AM
You don't need talent. We just need to show cadets drilling and learning. That taked no talent at all. It really doesn't have to be perfect. Just be yourself.

In "the industry" the talent are the people appearing on camera... You can be talent for a show and have no talent whatsoever.

thefischNX01 · December 09, 2005, 12:27:20 AM

Okay....

flyguy06 · December 09, 2005, 02:19:55 PM

Why are so many higher ups in CAP resigning

Eclipse · December 09, 2005, 05:44:44 PM

Probably fodder for a different thread as I'm sure there are plenty of CAP Sith Lords out there changing the batteries in their light sabers right now to jump in here and cut down our stars, but quickly...

A few had questionable personal relationships which would had been extremely serious, in the active services, but were really only annoying and poor image for us.

As to General Glascow, though there has been some back channel about there being more to it, those of us who have met and worked w/ him (most recently in MS), tend to believe his statements that he simply could not handle the combined load of CAP responsibilities and some personal issues at home with il, aging parents.

He also mentioned that he had only worked 4 days full time in the last forty, which, if you look at what CAP has been up to in last couple months, sounds about right.

We've made some serious errors in judgment in regards to our National leaders, but w/ General Glascow I'm leaving the blinders on.

Cam89 · December 10, 2005, 02:18:36 AM

If anyone is interested in making the short movie I can give you alot of ideas but that would run a couple of pages. So if someone does want to talk you can e-mail me. I think it is in the profile area. Then if you e-mail me I will give you my phone number.That is if you are really serious about the movie idea.