CAP discounted cellphone/data plans????

Started by c172drv, August 06, 2008, 03:11:31 PM

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c172drv

     Anyone know of discounted cellphone, specifically, data plans that can be used.  We don't have landlines available at our trailer or our meeting place so this would be our primary means to connect to the world.  I'm planning on getting a laptop connect card from one of the major carriers but didn't know if there were some discounts already setup out there.

John Jester
Prince William Squadron
VA Wing
John Jester
VAWG


Eclipse

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http://www.capwirelessonline.com/

This is the "official" CAP cell phone discount source.

I don't really see much there you couldn't get just walking in off the street, though there might be some access to business plans that are harder to get at the retail stores.

I am paying $20 a month for unlimited data from T-Mobile on my MDA, which also allows for tethering the phone to a notebook.

"That Others May Zoom"

JC004

If CAP uses a cell phone carrier at the national level, it is possible that they could extend the actual employee discount program for the carrier.  I checked this out for my non-profit with Verizon, but we don't have enough corporate phones yet.  I'd post the specifics, but I'm not sure where my notes are from that call.  A wing could also do this, probably.  I know PAWG has phones.  I think they are Verizon.

davidsinn

Verizon offers a 10% discount right off the top for showing your CAPID. It's a government discount.
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

dwb

Quote from: davidsinn on August 06, 2008, 04:14:54 PMVerizon offers a 10% discount right off the top for showing your CAPID. It's a government discount.

Is that in writing somewhere?  I've been a VZW customer for 5+ years, I'd take 10% off.

jimmydeanno

I can't confirm the gov't discount for CAP members, but they do have military/gov't discounts.  The military discount my wife and I get (I think) 15% off.  For government/military they also have a list of about 400 different phones that you can get for free*

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davidsinn

Quote from: dwb on August 06, 2008, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on August 06, 2008, 04:14:54 PMVerizon offers a 10% discount right off the top for showing your CAPID. It's a government discount.

Is that in writing somewhere?  I've been a VZW customer for 5+ years, I'd take 10% off.

All I can say is go to a VZW corporate store and ask them to look it up. They'll copy your ID and it will show up in a few weeks.
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writing this from the iPhone at the AT&T store.  Got a cap discount