Another hat idea

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

What I did assert was that the USAF did not allow people who were out of their uniform standards to wear the military uniform, because they don't want people to mistake an overweight or bearded individual for a military officer.
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If I had my way, everyone would be in a corporate uniform, cadets included, BTW.

Based on what? I've seen references to making the CAP AF based uniform distinctive from the AF uniform. I've never seen disparaging remarks about our heavy or hairy members.

By your reasoning the BBDU should have no cover, yet it does. When in the G/W or BBDU we render the same C&C as the those in the AF style. Some of us in the G/W feel a bit odd outdoors w/out cover. And no, a baseball cap with a dress uniform does not cut it.

So, you want us all in corporate uniforms that have no possible military look. Golf shirts for all?

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

CyBorg, what is with this hat fixation of yours?

Seriously dude, you're starting to get a bit creepy.

I've been called worse than "creepy,"  but honestly I don't find anything amiss about making suggestions for a piece of cloth on the head.  I know I'm not the only CAP member who feels this way.  I certainly didn't mean to create offence.

My "fixation," if there is one, is to be in line with what General Courter said in her PowerPoint: standardise the G/W uniforms (and I know she didn't say anything about a hat).  Right now, they are anything BUT "uniform," and truth be told I see too many people wearing them in a slovenly manner.

And, if anything, I would like to see NHQ clarify what sort of hat is/isn't allowed.  Right now all the regs say is the "CAP baseball cap."  That can mean anything from the ones Vanguard sells to ones you find on Evilbay.



Something like that would be far better with the polo shirt.

That's all the information you really need. You assert that G/W wearers should be "uniform" with those who wear the military clothes.

I'd first prefer that they be uniform with each other.  There are so many different cuts of the shirt and trousers, not to mention shades of grey, that it is not uniform, and that's got nertz (® Major Frank Burns) to do with looking like the USAF.  And, yes, I would like the blazer to be replaced with something more like airline crew wear.



Disclaimer: I am not advocating or discouraging sleeve rings.

It is SUPPOSED to look civilian, and making it look more military demonstrates that the whole point of the uniform is going over your head.

If it is going over my head, then, I wonder, why was the change made in 1994-95 to allow a uniform with rank and devices?  The previous one had neither, except for the blazer nameplate.

If I had my way, everyone would be in a corporate uniform, cadets included, BTW. But that's neither here nor there.

Why?

My point is that by trying to make the civilian uniform look more military, you're defeating the whole point of the uniform's existence. It's a CAP uniform, regardless of whether or not it has a hat. Why can't you be proud of that?

It's not that I'm not proud of a CAP uniform, even though I cannot understand why it has to be so colourless.  I just don't get it.  THAT may well be going over my head.

If my purpose in advocating a hat is solely to make it more "military," then...

http://www.airlineuniforms.net/hat.htm

I would be quite happy with any of these styles, even if the blasted thing has to be grey.  The flight cap/beret are suggestions.  No more, no less.

And, as I said to PHall, I meant no offence.

I'm sure there is a big concern right now at USAF HQ that overweight CAP members are being mistaken for German federal defense force members by the civilian population.

I'm not sure how much the AF is concerned with us, period.

Or if they are concerned with their uniforms to that extent...I don't think they'd be so good with SDF air personnel wearing them with far, far less mods than we do.

Again, all this is just my opinion.  I'm certainly not foolish enough to believe that CAP would actually adopt anything other than the status quo.