The end of the TPU?

[floridacyclist]

I saw on CAPBlog where it was hoped that Gen Courter would reverse the damage done by TP, inc the TPU among other things. Does anyone think they would actually revoke this uniform? To me it is a step in the right direction with standardized pants and a halfway military lok to it...perhaps we can finally lose the whites and greys?

Perhaps the real question is, should I call Tom and cancel mine and my wife's blue nametags and epaulets?

[Capt M. Sherrod]

I think that the White / Blue Coporate uniform needs to be the only Corporate Uniform.  It should allow for those members who are both fat (myself) and fuzzy.  That would alleviate the non-uniform shades of grey that are prevalent.  You are still keeping the grey pants with the golf shirt, however, I think it needs to be just the 1625's with the Aviator Shirts.  YMMV.

[Lancer]

I for one like the new Corporate Uniform.

What is nice about it is that it is a 'complete' uniform from head to toe. As opposed to the White/Grey Combo which only looks good from the waist up because everyone has a different pair of gray slacks, a different belt and any number of different 'black shoes'. This same ailment is what makes the 'Polo Combo' not as desireable as it could be.

I for one did not drop almost $500 into a uniform combination only to have it yanked out from under me less than a year later. Thank you very much.

[Major Carrales]

I don't think the so-called "TPU" will be going anywhere very fast.  Based on teh number of poeple I have seen wearing it in photos (including Brig Gen Courter), at conferences and even some cadets that posts photos on CADETSTUFF (you know who you are...I can see you twitching!)

Frankly, I don't see it as being solely Pineda's doing.  For something like that to be aprroved, it requires more than just an "executive descision" on the part of the National Commander.  I think this was a motion by a broader scope of persons.

In anycase, I do not own one such uniform for even a single item (save for the CAP ribbons, drawers and shoes that are somewhat required  ) of that uniform.  Not even a white aviator shirt.

Should I buy one?

[SDF_Specialist]

I reccomend the TPU Major. I like it, it's comforable, it's just as professional looking as the Blues.

[floridacyclist]

If we named it after the National CC, does that mean that we can call it the ACU now?

[SDF_Specialist]

If we named it after the National CC, does that mean that we can call it the ACU now?

With the ultramarine blue nametapes?

[CAP_truth]

I like the TPU  better than the grey/white combo. It is a complete uniform, but I wish the would change the grey sleeve braid with the blue braid. It make everyone that wears the uniform look like an Ensign or Admiral. Also I would like to see the old pocket flaps with silver buttons on this uniform it would make it more like a military uniform and less like a business suit. That just my opinion. This uniform can be worn as a semi-formal so many members do not have to buy mess dress uniforms. We could add wear medals in place of ribbons for semi-formal occasion would be nice.

[Major Carrales]

If we named it after the National CC, does that mean that we can call it the ACU now?

I don't know why people chose to call it the "TPU" to begin with.  Ironically, it is those persons who most hate "TP" that assigned that moniker (likely out of spite) that may have endured that name for the ages.

I believe it is porperly referred to as "The Corporate Service Coat."  I may start to refer to it as the CSC.

As I said, I don't think it will be going anywhere for at least 5 years, too many have spent so much on it and, based on the "financial" issues many people are "living and dying" by in counter points in those Cadet Shoulder Board/ Golf Shirt threads, I doubt people will merely cancel out the some $500 purchase willy-nilly.

[CAP_truth]

I vote for the CSU Corporate Service Uniform.

[Major Carrales]

I vote for the CSU Corporate Service Uniform.

I can back that up.

[JohnKachenmeister]

Aw, C'mon...

You KNOW there's about as much chance of "TPU" dropping out of the CAP lexicon as there is for getting Air Force pilots to stop calling the A-10 the "Warthog." 

Besides, 20 years from now, when I'm sitting in a rocker doped up with medicine at the "Old CAP Pilot's Home" and somebody asks me why the TPU is called that, I'll know, because... we ALL were a part of CAP history and tradition in the making.

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I thought it might be interesting to see what people think about the fate of this uniform.

[jimmydeanno]

when I'm sitting in a rocker doped up with medicine at the "Old CAP Pilot's Home"

Is that the same as a Wing Staff meeting...

[Falshrmjgr]

Don't forget, the TPU is the only uniform that allows ex-military fat bodies to wear the Military Awards they have EARNED.  My only change would be to allow the wear of badges as well.

( I personally find it offensive that someone who has served his country honorably, and then continues to serve in a volunteer capacity is precluded from wearing that which he/she was awarded by a competent military authority.  Frankly, you should just say "thanks", not "Well, whatever, but you are too fat to wear that anymore."

[CAP_truth]

I think that wearing military ribbons and badges would be nice, but I think it would take a CAP constitution change to make that happen.

[SDF_Specialist]

when I'm sitting in a rocker doped up with medicine at the "Old CAP Pilot's Home"

Is that the same as a Wing Staff meeting...

Depends on the Wing!

[SDF_Specialist]

Why would we get rid of it? It obviously has enough support to stay alive. That's just my opinion though. I vote yes, we will keep it.

[Smokey]

It's the TPU becuase it was presented by TP to the NEC without warning and they were told to vote on it.  Not wanting to loose thier heads (Eagles), they nodded and said "OK". 

I am qualified to wear the AF uniform, so I won't be jumping into the TPU.  But IMHO the dbl breasted makes the fat folks look fatter, the silver braid looks like you  work for Delta and I think the whole thing just pissed off the AF.

Plus I've seen all sorts of combinations including the white aviator shirt with AF epaulets and gray pants, with a grey nametag also a white aviator shirt with grey epaulets and blue pants and blue nametag.  Sheesh.

[Dragoon]

Perhaps, just perhaps, the TPU could be modified.

In the same way that Fogleman modified McPeake's USAF suit. (added epaulets, removed sleeve braid, added cutouts)

Remove the silver braid.
Go to the same cloth rank slides as the rest of CAP uses (no more pin-on or blue epaulets)
Standardize on a single nametag to be used on both coats (and if you gotta, a second nametag to be used on both shirts).

And give it all a 2 year phase in period.


(but yeah, going double breasted for a fat boy suit - it makes everyone look like Chief O'Hara on Batman.  Not the best choice)