Using military rough-out boots

[AngelWings]

 I'm getting pretty sick(actually the polish fumes burned out my nose lining a bit and my nose bleed, or atleast the doctors from the Emergency Room said so) and tired of polishing, with my blues, they are coroframs. best decision of my life. I have the shiniest boots in my squadron anyways, but it really just cuts into actually time I have to do other things. I polish all the time and have no problem if I have to, but it just becomes so boring, even with music. I was wondering if we are allowed to do the USAF thing and buy rough-outs that don't get worn out has quickly, feel alot better, makes things look more uniform, and ventialte or retain heat better. I don't mean to whine about it, but it is just one of those things that I love. I want to look a little more like I belong to the USAF too. Is there any written restrictions anyways?

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I thought you said you knew the ins and outs of the Regs. Try reading the 39-1, you will see that it says your boots must be black leather, they may also have a cloth upper that is either black or green. That is it. When and if we change to the ABU then you will be able to wear the suede boots.

[SABRE17]

i don't know if the cloth upper part is correct, everyone i know wears bates paratrooper 11" side zips and those are full leather. nor have i ever been told that i was wearing incorrect boots.

cite please?

[manfredvonrichthofen]

CAPM 39-1 Table 2-3 Line 4

Footwear (Combat Boots)
Black, with or without safety toe, plain rounded toe or rounded capped
toe with or without perforated seam. Zipper or elastic inserts optional,
smooth or scotch-grained leather or man-made material, and may have a
high gloss or patent finish.

(Hot-weather Tropical)
Green or black cloth, or canvas and black leather with plain toe with
zipper or elastic inserts.

I don't think what your wearing is wrong either, I have seen them plenty of times. I just feel a preference to the green ones because those are what were issued to me at my unit in the Army. So I stick with them.

[SABRE17]

i think the confusion might have been the reference to the hot weather, i can see them putting an allowance for cloth in hot weather.

i checked the manual out my self and noticed that when it comes to cold weather jackets it only notes the m-65 style field jacket, my unit just got a shipment of goretex jackets in and now every one has them, are those technically out of reg?

[davidsinn]

i think the confusion might have been the reference to the hot weather, i can see them putting an allowance for cloth in hot weather.

i checked the manual out my self and noticed that when it comes to cold weather jackets it only notes the m-65 style field jacket, my unit just got a shipment of goretex jackets in and now every one has them, are those technically out of reg?

There is an ICL that allows them.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I have been trying to find the very same thing out. I have heard that the goretex is ok now, they even have the rank slides for it at VG. I have seen them worn alot but I cannot find the actual memorandum that says so.

[SarDragon]

ICL of 25 January 2008.

[HGjunkie]

I have been trying to find the very same thing out. I have heard that the goretex is ok now, they even have the rank slides for it at VG. I have seen them worn alot but I cannot find the actual memorandum that says so.

Letter F sir.

[EMT-83]

I have been trying to find the very same thing out. I have heard that the goretex is ok now, they even have the rank slides for it at VG. I have seen them worn alot but I cannot find the actual memorandum that says so.

I liked the post better before the edit. Maybe a new nickname for Vanguard? 

[SarDragon]

I have been trying to find the very same thing out. I have heard that the goretex is ok now, they even have the rank slides for it at VG. I have seen them worn alot but I cannot find the actual memorandum that says so.

Letter F sir.

You're too easy.  :angel:

[HGjunkie]

You're too easy.  :angel:

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I have been trying to find the very same thing out. I have heard that the goretex is ok now, they even have the rank slides for it at VG. I have seen them worn alot but I cannot find the actual memorandum that says so.

Letter F sir.

Tango Mike, been looking for that one.

I have been trying to find the very same thing out. I have heard that the goretex is ok now, they even have the rank slides for it at VG. I have seen them worn alot but I cannot find the actual memorandum that says so.

I liked the post better before the edit. Maybe a new nickname for Vanguard? 

I saw the error as soon as i posted it, and thought good and hard about leaving it... But I decided against it. Though I do agree.

[BGNightfall]

I can't remember which manufacturer is making them, but the US Navy commissioned black leather rough-out boots for its NWU.  I'd imagine that they would look fairly comical with BDUs, but then again so do tan or "sage green" rough out boots.

[IceNine]

What type of polish/method are you using that is "burning" your nose?

I've spent a fair number of years polishing and never even had irritation.

[PHall]

What type of polish/method are you using that is "burning" your nose?

I've spent a fair number of years polishing and never even had irritation.

Leather Luster possibly. The solvent used to remove Leather Luster is pretty powerful stuff.

[GTCommando]

^^Perhaps the infamous lighter method? 

[HGjunkie]

^^Perhaps the infamous lighter method?

Ugh... *memories* Even that isn't usually bad enough to cause that.

[Hawk200]

^^Perhaps the infamous lighter method?

That's what I was thinking.

[JC004]

If you are doing anything related to an Emergency Room and your boots, you are doing it wrong and that is clearly not the fault of the boots.  The military didn't change boot types due to a large number of nose injuries.  Still, the suede style is not authorized in CAP.