After 5 Powered O-Flights

[Cms.sloane]

I just completed my 5th O-Flight for powered aircraft. I know that you get your glider pilot wings for gliders, so you get wings for powered aircraft to?

[lordmonar]

Who told you....you get glider wings for your glider O-rides? 

All you get is the experince of having completed all your O-rides.

[Cms.sloane]

Sir,

A fellow cadet who had glider wings told me that he had earned them by doing all of his glider o rides.

[a2capt]

That other cadet is either sorely mistaken, has been lead wrongly by leadership, or you mis-understood them to say that they actually soloed, or even possess an FAA certificate for glider flight - earned by completing *lots* of flights.

But the only thing you get for O-rides is a printed certificate, and recording in your Cadet permanent record.

[PA Guy]

Sir,

A fellow cadet who had glider wings told me that he had earned them by doing all of his glider o rides.

Where do people get this stuff?  Read the regs they are your friend:  www.capmembers.com/media/cms/u_082203095100.pdf

A sqdn, group or wing can not change those requirements so don't fall for the, "well that's the way we do it in our squadron".

[SarDragon]

Cadet Sloane, look at the top of the page. There's a place that looks like this:

"Hey, Cms.sloane, you have [a number] messages, [a smaller number] are new."

Click the word messages, and then read them.   Replies might also be appropriate.            

[Cms.sloane]

Then how would a cadet get his wings for gliders or powered. I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to till your a senior. Would that be correct.

[capchiro]

No, you don't need to be a senior to earn wings.  A cadet can get glider pre-solo wings if they complete the requirements for same, usually at a summer glider flight encampment.  They can get solo wings the same way.  You can probably do the same at powered flight encampment.  After you complete your 5 O flights, you get a certificate, but no wings.  Now, for some good news, you can still get back seat flights everytime you get a chance.  No limit on those.  Just let O flight pilots know you are interested and want to fly.  Congratulations on completing your O flights.  Check into a flight scholarship so you can start your flight traiing for real..

[Eclipse]

To get powered wings you must by a legal pilot and complete a Form 5 check ride.

Cadets must be 18 to do a form 5.

CAP pilot wings, at any level, require that you are actually flying the aircraft.

[Flying Pig]

Siiiiiiiigh.  Can you believe it.  Somewhere in CAP there is a squadron full of  14 yr old cadets with pilot wings.

[Eclipse]

Siiiiiiiigh.  Can you believe it.  Somewhere in CAP there is a squadron full of  14 yr old cadets with pilot wings.

Worse, when Cadet Sloane brings this plate of reality sandwiches to the unit, it'll somehow be his "fault" all these cadets have to take off their shiny badges, most to never wear them again.

[Flying Pig]

I would certainly hope the Senior leadership comes with sincerely apologies to the cadets for being mistaken and that nothing comes back on the cadet who decided to do some research. Seniors make mistakes.  But to be so far removed from CAP that you just start handing out pilot wings is pretty wild.  Funny how it trickles down hill.  Because we have possibly several cadets who followed their lead and never bothered to look either. 

Cms...just out of curiosity, how many cadets in your unit have wings?  So do the members in your unit think that all the seniors wearing wings got them by doing O-Rides also?

[BlueLakes1]

Cadets must be 18 to do a form 5.

Negative, one need only hold an FAA Private Pilot certificate to do a Form 5; there is no age restriction other than the FAA minimum age.

That being said, one must be 18 to be a Mission Pilot, and 21 or a CFI to be an O-ride pilot.

[a2capt]

I have some concern about what might possibly be going on in a particular unit ..

Of course, we can only go by what we read here:

Wings, for O-Rides?
..cadet wanting advice on how to sneak food into encampment. (It's not like they starve you there, like it's SERE school or anything)
..cadet indicating that things are settled "fist to face" and not by debate, reason or common sense. (search for that phrase)

What is really going on?

[Eclipse]

What is really going on?

My guess would be very little, and uneven leadership.

FYI - wiki says 16 to be a student pilot in a powered airplane, 14 in a glider.

[Pumbaa]

My daughter got her Students Pilot License at 16 in the Spring 2009 (groundschool, leftseat, test and physical).  She solo'd that summer in Alaska.  She turned 17 in the Fall and just needs to complete her cross country and her check ride. She's got a boatload of time in the left seat, plus has flown a number of different airframes.

This is the correct way.

An "O" ride is exactly that.. orientation from the right seat. 

[JayT]

I have some concern about what might possibly be going on in a particular unit ..

Of course, we can only go by what we read here:

Wings, for O-Rides?
..cadet wanting advice on how to sneak food into encampment. (It's not like they starve you there, like it's SERE school or anything)
..cadet indicating that things are settled "fist to face" and not by debate, reason or common sense. (search for that phrase)

What is really going on?

Don't forget it was a 'CMS' who said all this too.

[HGjunkie]

 

[DC]

What are you embarrassed about?

[HGjunkie]

that CAP has a unit that hands out wings like this.