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Operations => Safety => Topic started by: Live2Learn on February 13, 2017, 01:35:54 AM

Title: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Live2Learn on February 13, 2017, 01:35:54 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38948711 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38948711)

How many of the IMSAFE issues did this pilot exhibit?  Start the count down... :(

Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Starbux on February 13, 2017, 04:20:45 AM
Based off of the information just Stress. 
Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Live2Learn on February 13, 2017, 05:33:58 AM
Quote from: Starbux on February 13, 2017, 04:20:45 AM
Based off of the information just Stress.

and... (at least one, probably two...)
Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: NC Hokie on February 13, 2017, 05:21:06 PM
I'm with Starbux based on the information presented. Anything else would be pure speculation unless you have additional information.
Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Eclipse on February 13, 2017, 05:31:52 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/02/12/a-united-pilot-ranted-about-trump-clinton-and-divorce-her-passengers-fled/

http://jalopnik.com/airline-pilot-rants-about-politics-and-divorce-before-t-1792272172

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4bEPfeUEAAK21N.jpg)

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--M7C5phbn--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/zqyfesvl6cuclnosdl6b.png)

She was probably "dehydrated".

The more important questions here are how she got through security (likely pilot credentials) and why no one from the flight crew yanked that
phone out her hands the minute she went off the rails.  It sounds like the doors were closed and they were intending to take off with her in that condition.

Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on February 13, 2017, 06:06:50 PM
Can't be worse than this:

https://i.imgur.com/GQpGDTL.gifv
Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Live2Learn on February 14, 2017, 05:43:25 AM
Quote from: NC Hokie on February 13, 2017, 05:21:06 PM
I'm with Starbux based on the information presented. Anything else would be pure speculation unless you have additional information.

Even "stress" is speculation.  I'm sure we won't see a lot of follow up on this one, though maybe??? the NTSB will join the conversation with a review or some such.  Meanwhile

I -- even temporary mental illness qualifies. 
M -- Dunno.  Shear speculation that she self medicated.
S -- Stress is likely.  Divorce tends to do that.
A -- Probably not alcohol since screeners seem up on that one.  Crews are too... though this crew seemed either clueless OR protective of the Captain.  Might be something else in the medicine cabinet that would affect judgement.
F -- See "S".  Lack of sleep and Divorce also go together.
E -- See S and F.  Emotion and Divorce or Divorce and Emotion.  They're inseparable. 

I am very sad for her.  She's in a wringer.
Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: DakRadz on February 16, 2017, 12:35:19 AM
Quote from: Майор Хаткевич on February 13, 2017, 06:06:50 PM
Can't be worse than this:

https://i.imgur.com/GQpGDTL.gifv

http://www.franklinairshow.com/Our%20Acts.htm

Almost got me. Almost.
Title: Re: IMSAFE - a not so great example of failure to self evaluate...
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on February 16, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
Quote from: DakRadz on February 16, 2017, 12:35:19 AM
Quote from: Майор Хаткевич on February 13, 2017, 06:06:50 PM
Can't be worse than this:

https://i.imgur.com/GQpGDTL.gifv (https://i.imgur.com/GQpGDTL.gifv)

http://www.franklinairshow.com/Our%20Acts.htm (http://www.franklinairshow.com/Our%20Acts.htm)

Almost got me. Almost.


>:D