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Started by SAR-EMT1, May 26, 2007, 06:55:32 AM

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SAR-EMT1

Why DO Seniors have Gray Nametags when Cadets have blue?
We should match.
I applauded the fact that we got the silver and blue nameplates for Service dress several years ago.
I saw one Senior a while back who had a nametag that said Civil Air Patrol followed by his name. No mention of the Air Force at all! Bad taste if you ask me, and a slap in the face to the Air Force.

What did the older Senior nametag look like?
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student

Hawk200

Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on May 28, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
What did the older Senior nametag look like?

It was the same as the current cadet nametag, with no variation to indicate senior or cadet. At least that was the most recent nametag.

The nametag you saw without an Air Force reference was probably the TPU nametag. It just has "Civil Air Patrol" and the members last name. It's supposed to be worn only on the white shirt, blue pants uniform variation.

AlphaSigOU

Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on May 28, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
Why DO Seniors have Gray Nametags when Cadets have blue?
We should match.
I applauded the fact that we got the silver and blue nameplates for Service dress several years ago.
I saw one Senior a while back who had a nametag that said Civil Air Patrol followed by his name. No mention of the Air Force at all! Bad taste if you ask me, and a slap in the face to the Air Force.

What did the older Senior nametag look like?

Way back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, the nametag was black with the CAP crest - just like the current blazer nametag without the wing designation or rank. Only a metal 'CADET CIVIL AIR PATROL' (for cadets) or 'CIVIL AIR PATROL-AUXILIARY U.S. AIR FORCE' (for seniors) plate worn above the nametag distinguished one from the other.

Around 1978, the blue 3-line nameplate was introduced for both cadets and seniors. After the maroon epaulets were forced on us, the blazer nameplate was worn only by seniors on the grays before the three-line gray nameplate was introduced around 1995 with the gray epaulets. The TPU combo uses a two-line blue (or silver - for the TPU service dress) nameplate.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
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Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
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JohnKachenmeister

Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on May 28, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
Why DO Seniors have Gray Nametags when Cadets have blue?
We should match.
I applauded the fact that we got the silver and blue nameplates for Service dress several years ago.
I saw one Senior a while back who had a nametag that said Civil Air Patrol followed by his name. No mention of the Air Force at all! Bad taste if you ask me, and a slap in the face to the Air Force.

What did the older Senior nametag look like?

The old nameplates were black, and had the last name in white letters.  On the side of the tag, before the start of the name, was a small gold CAP seal.
Another former CAP officer

Major Carrales

Tell me about the powder blue female uniform.

"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

JohnKachenmeister

Quote from: Major Carrales on May 29, 2007, 12:30:09 AM
Tell me about the powder blue female uniform.



Sparky:

The only "Powder blue" uniform I remember was the smurf suit, was was designed to make both males and females equally ugly.  In the 60's there were "Blue cords" for females, which were the equivalent uniform to the khaki 1505 or 505 for the males.
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SAR-EMT1

#26
So any possibility of at least getting Seniors back with the same blue nametag as cadets? - epulet color aside-

Sidebar...
What was the 'best' looking CAP ID card back -in-the-day?
and what was on it? I saw one from a LtCol once that listed a request for assitance on the backside  from servicemembers, police etc...and had the CAP or AF Seal (cant remember)  Thought it was pretty nice.

The one we have now seems pretty tame.
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student

SarDragon

I'm going to answer more than one post here, so bear with me a bit.

Camas talked about the bush jacket. IIRC, it had the 1505 material, not the 505 material. I had one up until about 1982 or so, and don't recall that it had the hard cotton texture of the 505s.

Quote from: CamasI also fondly remember the dark blue longsleeved winter shirt.  That was a great uniform component worn as a "Class B" blue uniform and yes, that's was it was called back in those days.

Great uniform. I miss it. As for "Class B", not officially. I have copies of uni regs clear back to 1968, and combinations were never in that time referred to by classes.

Quote from: KachI don't know when the badges went away.  I think I was overseas expending ordnance when that happened.

They went away in Jul '81. Additionally, the olde name tags with the CAP seal went away at the same time. The three-line style was introduced in 1978, giving an overlap period.

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Guayabera shirts - I can scan a uni reg page, and post it, but I refuse up front to replace any keyboards that might get puked on. Y'all's choice.

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JC004

Quote from: SarDragon on May 29, 2007, 06:24:04 AM
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Guayabera shirts - I can scan a uni reg page, and post it, but I refuse up front to replace any keyboards that might get puked on. Y'all's choice.

Doooo iiiiiit.

PA Guy

Quote from: SarDragon on May 29, 2007, 06:24:04 AM
I'm going to answer more than one post here, so bear with me a bit.

Camas talked about the bush jacket. IIRC, it had the 1505 material, not the 505 material. I had one up until about 1982 or so, and don't recall that it had the hard cotton texture of the 505s.

Quote from: CamasI also fondly remember the dark blue longsleeved winter shirt.  That was a great uniform component worn as a "Class B" blue uniform and yes, that's was it was called back in those days.

Great uniform. I miss it. As for "Class B", not officially. I have copies of uni regs clear back to 1968, and combinations were never in that time referred to by classes.

Quote from: KachI don't know when the badges went away.  I think I was overseas expending ordnance when that happened.

They went away in Jul '81. Additionally, the olde name tags with the CAP seal went away at the same time. The three-line style was introduced in 1978, giving an overlap period.

*****
Guayabera shirts - I can scan a uni reg page, and post it, but I refuse up front to replace any keyboards that might get puked on. Y'all's choice.



The bush jacket only came in the shade 505 cotton material. When the 1505 came out the bush jacket was phased out.  I still have mine.

SarDragon

OK, I sit corrected.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

JohnKachenmeister

Thank you for not posting the G-shirt pix.

If the TPU makes us look like officers in the Guatemalan Navy, the Gyaberra made us look like Guatemalan sugar cane plantation owners.
Another former CAP officer

Hawk200

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on May 29, 2007, 01:02:39 PMIf the TPU makes us look like officers in the Guatemalan Navy, the Gyaberra made us look like Guatemalan sugar cane plantation owners.

I always thought it looked like a drug lord trying to look like a sugar cane plantation owner...

Or I could just have an extremely odd imagination.

JohnKachenmeister

Drug lords don't wear nametags!
Another former CAP officer

ZigZag911

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on May 29, 2007, 12:36:59 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on May 29, 2007, 12:30:09 AM
Tell me about the powder blue female uniform.



Sparky:

The only "Powder blue" uniform I remember was the smurf suit, was was designed to make both males and females equally ugly.  In the 60's there were "Blue cords" for females, which were the equivalent uniform to the khaki 1505 or 505 for the males.

And the color of the 'blue cords' (a blouse & skirt, IIRC) could accurately be described as "powder blue"!

BillB

There were two blue cord female uniforms, the cotton cord and the dacron cord. The cotton cord was worn to the mid 1960's when it was replaced by the dacron cord. The cotton cord required starch and ironing, the dacron cord only a light ironing if even that. I have "rebuilt a set of both uniforms and hopefully people can see them at the 2008 National Board meeting at Orlando where a select group of cadets will be wearing the various uniforms from 1942 and up.
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Gil Robb Wilson # 104

SarDragon

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on May 29, 2007, 01:02:39 PM
Thank you for not posting the G-shirt pix.

If the TPU makes us look like officers in the Guatemalan Navy, the Gyaberra made us look like Guatemalan sugar cane plantation owners.

Well, I don't quite see a consensus yet. Bueller?
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

SAR-EMT1

How many different ID cards have we had in the last few decades?
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student

SarDragon

Well, as for real IDs, I've seen two in the last 25 years or so. When we talk about membership cards, I have five different styles in my drawer, going back to 1980.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

SAR-EMT1

Would you prefer one of the older styles in place of the one we have today?
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student