CAP Multi engine aircraft

Started by flyguy06, December 31, 2005, 05:38:48 PM

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flyguy06

Does Civil Air Patrol have any multi engine aircraft. I seem to remember back in 1997 when I was stationed in HAwaii, I saw a CAP twin. It was a high wing fixed gear piston. It had a funny name to it that I cant remember. But other than that, I cannot recall any other twins.

Pylon

Maj Gen Antonio Pineda, National Commander, announced at the NER Conference in November that Civil Air Patrol is currently obtaining a multi-engine aircraft.  It would become the only one currently in the fleet, according to him, meaning we haven't had any (at least for a while) up until now.

Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

BillB

At one time CAP had a few C-45's, twin Beech aircraft. I never saw one, but heard there were several.
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Cam89

How many are still around? I would loveto have one.
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Pylon

Quote from: Cam89 on January 01, 2006, 06:28:35 PM
How many are still around? I would loveto have one.

Uh... how many what are still around where?   ???
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

fyrfitrmedic

 There used to be an Aztec based at PNE years ago...
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Cam89

How many C-45's are there? How much are they? I would love to have one.
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BillB

#7
All of the CAP C-45's would have gone out of CAP inventory, probably around 1965. The twin Beech lists in Trade-a-Plane, last time I looked they were about $225,000.
Gil Robb Wilson # 19
Gil Robb Wilson # 104

NIN

Partenavia P68 Observer.

I think (but don't quote me on that) that its also the kind of airplane that CAP is considering for the twin.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/148235/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/266003/L/ (with the glass "observer" nose)

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MIKE

Quote from: NIN on January 04, 2006, 03:21:20 PM
Partenavia P68 Observer.

I think (but don't quote me on that) that its also the kind of airplane that CAP is considering for the twin.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/148235/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/266003/L/ (with the glass "observer" nose)

But the question remains... Is it jumpable?  ;)

Doesn't look like it from the pics.
Mike Johnston

Cam89

If you could. Please find out for me were I can buy one.Thank you
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MIKE

Quote from: Cam89 on January 05, 2006, 02:21:42 AM
If you could. Please find out for me were I can buy one.Thank you

Somebody have a good holiday?  :o

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/index.shtml

Would make a good lawn ornament though.  :D
Mike Johnston

SarDragon

Quote from: BillB on January 03, 2006, 03:16:46 AM
All of the CAP C-45's would have gone out of CAP inventory, probably around 1965. The twin Beech lists in Trade-a-Plane, last time I looked they were about $225,000.
This one?

Dis de one I want!
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flyguy06

The Partenavia. Thats the plane I was talking about that I saw the Hawaii WIng have. It must be very popular inthat part of the country.

ON another note, can somebady please tell me how to post a quote?

Pylon

Quote from: flyguy06 on January 05, 2006, 09:14:22 AM
ON another note, can somebady please tell me how to post a quote?
Done.  Check your Personal Messages.   :)
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

NIN

Quote from: MIKE on January 04, 2006, 03:40:35 PM
But the question remains... Is it jumpable?  ;)

Doesn't look like it from the pics.

Me thinks not. :)

That door is awfully close to the engine.  And I'll bet that Partenavia frowns on flight with the door removed.

You'd be surprised what aircraft tend to BE jumpable, however.  I've gotten out of some fairly weird aircraft in my time (the C-152 Aerobat comes to mind directly.. That was a TIGHT jumpship.  The Maule ranks a close second.  That was a CAP demo jump, too)

And I will NOT ever again get into a Twin Beech. Ever.



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SKYKING607

Used to be a Cessna 310 cruising around CAWG some years ago.
CAWG Career Captain

gatopgun

Georgia had a Doctor donate a C-337 to the Wing this past June. National told us we had to sell it . We couldn't fly it in any official capacity at all.  We do however pay pilots to fly there own personal A/C ( some C-337's) to support SEADS missions at a rate I think of 120.00 Hr. DRY. Didn't make since to me at all. They said it was an Insurance thing But the private A/C owners are covered while they fly there own 337's for CAP.  It was a graeat lookiing A/C had High time engines but if Nat. had payed the wing what they were paying the private owners we could have covered the costs and cut out the private A/C guy's .

Whoops, follow the money and you will most likely find the answers.

NIN

<tongue firmly planted in cheek>

Perfect SAR platform: High observation factor, multi-engined...

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BillB

Every pilot would be required to provide their own toothbrush. To clean off the bugs if the pilot smiles while in flight. Another expense for CAP members.
Gil Robb Wilson # 19
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smj58501

Air conditioning come standard with this model, too. ND Wing definitely can use one
Sean M. Johnson
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Chief of Staff
ND Wing CAP

Viper

How do you search air craft on that site?

Pylon

Quote from: Viper on March 07, 2006, 01:59:06 AM
How do you search air craft on that site?

You're going to want to be a bit more specific in the future, or at least quote the post to which you're referring.  There were two different websites mentioned in this thread:  Airliners and Trade-a-Plane.

Airliner's can be search by clicking on the "Search" link on most any page.  That takes you here:  http://www.airliners.net/sitewide/

Trade-a-Plane has a prominent search box at the top of each page.  You can't miss it. ;)
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SKYKING607

Flight helmet, 5-pt harness, front and side airbags needed.

I love it!
CAWG Career Captain

SKYKING607

Navy is retiring the S-3 and P-3 aircraft.   Any screeners out there?

(yeah right)
CAWG Career Captain

Viper

Quote from: Pylon on March 07, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Viper on March 07, 2006, 01:59:06 AM
How do you search air craft on that site?

You're going to want to be a bit more specific in the future, or at least quote the post to which you're referring.  There were two different websites mentioned in this thread:  Airliners and Trade-a-Plane.

Airliner's can be search by clicking on the "Search" link on most any page.  That takes you here:  http://www.airliners.net/sitewide/

Trade-a-Plane has a prominent search box at the top of each page.  You can't miss it. ;)

I was talking aboutTrade-a-Plane.  I was searching the wrong thing, lol.  Should have searched fact sheets the first time.  It was telling me I had to be a subscriber.

Viper

But a member-owned twin engine can be used, right?

NIN

Quote from: Viper on March 08, 2006, 02:10:41 AM
But a member-owned twin engine can be used, right?

Sure, except you'll probably take a bath on the USAF reimbursement rate...

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Viper

Quote from: NIN on March 08, 2006, 03:26:37 AM
Quote from: Viper on March 08, 2006, 02:10:41 AM
But a member-owned twin engine can be used, right?

Sure, except you'll probably take a bath on the USAF reimbursement rate...



Is the reimbursement rate high or low?  Sorry, I'm just slow this morning--no sleep last night., lol.

SER Safety

Lt. Col Ninness

great to see you R still a Fast Burner

Great Idea for a muti engine platform

another NERSC Graduate(Honors)
Ernie Manzano, Major
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NIN

Quote from: SER Safety on April 05, 2006, 07:45:01 PM
Lt. Col Ninness

great to see you R still a Fast Burner

Great Idea for a muti engine platform

another NERSC Graduate(Honors)


Ernie, you old reprobate you!  How's my favorite Fast Burner Mr. Vice? :)

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NIN

#32
BTW, just incase you get crazy ideas about the P-68C Partenavia:

http://www.break.com/index/wingless1.html

This would probably happen in any plane, though. I think this guy was exceeding Vmo when he executed a pretty serious pullup.  Not too many planes out there will take that kind of abuse w/o leaving you hanging...
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flyguy06

I think it was the Partenavia that CAP had ih Hawaii Wing